How To Get Rid Of Gyno With Letro (Femara)

[BruceBanner]

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[auri]

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[BruceBanner]

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[auri]

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[Bouncer]

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[BruceBanner]

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[BOSS]

Bouncer,

I've been reading through this thread and you seem to know your stuff. I would appreciate some advice on my specific situation.

I'm 25 years old, 6'1" 195lbs with relatively low bf and ive been lifting for roughly 8 years. I developed some gyno as a teen but when i was 21 I took HGH without an E Blocker. I developed a much more severe case of gyno and ended up under going surgery when I was 24 to have it removed. I have been lifting ever since recovering and im looking alot more cut. Stupidly enough I took a test booster last month thinking it was safe and about 4 days after stopping i started developing gyno on my right side. Its not actually under my nip like my previous issues, it is actually slightly to the right of my nip. It isn't as hard as my prior gyno was but im worried if I don't take action it will harden.
What do you suggest i try?

Thanks in advance for your help, all your previous info has already been a big help.

[Bouncer]

dont know bro, may get worse may go away. you need to figure out if you are ok with taking a chance or not. letro will get rid of it.

[BOSS]

From what i've read so far, letro seems to carry alot of side effects. Since it has only been a few days since it appeared and it is still soft could nolva take care of it or is it too late?

[Wetmore]

Written by C_Bino on AR.

I am posting this thread to help answer all of the questions regarding gyno prevention and reversal, the use of letrozole and other anti-e’s. I will go over everything in very simple easy to understand language. Also we are talking about estrogen gyno here, not progesterone (but using letro will stop progesterone related problems as well since it inhibits all estrogen anyways). Progesterone gyno will be enlargement of your nipple area, the actual aereola, not a lump under it.


To first understand why you are doing what you are doing I am going to go over a few things and a few definitions:

SERM – Selective estrogen receptor modulator. These drugs work by binding to the estrogen receptors and flooding them in a sense, making it difficult (but not impossible by any means) for estrogen to bind to the receptors and thus prevent the onset of estrogen related side effects.
Most common forms: Tamoxifen (Nolvadex), Clomiphene (Clomid)
AI – Aromatise Inhibitor. These drugs work by inhibiting the aromatization of estrogen. This means that in effect AI’s prevent androgens from converting to estrogen, again, making it difficult (but not impossible) for estrogen to reach receptor sites.
Most common forms: Anastrozole (l-dex, a-dex), Exemestane (aromasin), Femera (letrozole). For our purpose of reversing gyno we are interested in Letro.

Letro and your sex drive:
Letrozole will suppress your sex drive. This is another reason why it is so important to act on preventing gyno as soon as possible. Since we all know that Test should be run in every cycle this will cancel out the effect of sex drive suppression.

Running letro to prevent gyno:
If you decide to run estrogen protection while on cycle (and I suggest you do unless you are aware that you do not require it), you can run either a SERM or an AI. Letro will be the most powerful AI you can use, it will inhibit 98+% of estrogen using a dose as low as .25mg and even lower. This is why I suggest you do not use a dose higher than .50mg while on cycle just trying to prevent estrogen related side effects.

You will want to start running the letro approximately 2 weeks before you begin your cycle to allow it to fully stabilize in your blood. I have often heard the argument that letro takes up to 60 days to stabilize, I don’t know if I buy into this for the reason that I have reversed gyno after using letro for only 1 week. Still to be safe I recommend starting it before your cycle as stated above.

If you do decide to run letro there is absolutely no need to run another AI or SERM. Do not make the mistake of thinking more is better. Think of it this way; if letro is preventing the conversion of androgens to estrogen than there is no estrogen, what would the purpose of a SERM be when there is no estrogen to bind to the receptors? Nolva will only take away from the effectiveness of letro.

This brings me to my next point. Do not listen to anyone who tells you to bump up your nolvadex to 60+mg ED if you get gyno. I have no idea where this idea started but I have seen it suggest far too many times recently. Nolvadex will do nothing to reverse your gyno…let me make that clear IT WILL DO NOTHING FOR GYNO. If you are running nolva as your anti-e and start to develop gyno than sure you can bump the dosage a small amount to try to prevent it from progressing further, but letrozole must begin ASAP.

It is very important that you begin taking letrozole immediately, the longer your wait the more risk you take in not being able to reverse it.

How do I know if I have gyno?
If you have developed gyno you will have a lump behind your nipple. It will be fairly hard, and it will be tender to touch.

Running letro to reverse gyno:
I am going to go over the three different scenarios which people could fit into. Remember regardless of what scenario you are in it is important that you begin taking the letro ASAP.

1. Already using an anti-e aside from letro.
2. Already using letro @ a dose of .25mg or .50mg ED.
3. Not running any estrogen protection.

1.
Day 1: .25mg Letro + anti-e*
Day 2: .50mg Letro
Day 3: 1.0mg Letro
Day 4: 1.5mg Letro
Day 5: 2.0mg Letro
Day 6: 2.5mg Letro **

2.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

3.
Day 1: .50mg Letro
Day 2: 1.0mg Letro
Day 3: 1.5mg Letro
Day 4: 2.0mg Letro
Day 5: 2.5mg Letro **

*Regardless of the anti-e you are using it is important to still use it for the first day you begin letro as the letro will not have taken any effect and you by no means want your body to be without any protection when gyno is already prevalent.

** You will remain at this dose until gyno symptoms subside. Once you believe your gyno is gone it is important to stay at this dose for another 4-7 days to ensure all traces are gone. I recommend people with a bf% over 15 stay on for a week as it may be harder to judge completely whether the lump is completely gone. Once this period is over it will be important to taper letro down slowly rather than coming off it completely. Regardless of which manner you tapered up your dose you will all taper down in the same fashion.

Day 1: 2.0mg
Day 2: 1.5mg
Day 3: 1.0mg
Day 4: .50mg***
Day 5: .25mg
***You can remain at this dose or go down further to .25mg. It is really up to you at this point. They are both very common maintenance doses as an anti-e while on cycle. Personally I have stayed with .25mg and never had a problem.

Letro and the estrogen rebound:
With your estrogen being completely inhibited there is a definite estrogen rebound as your body tries to re-stabilize the testosterone:estrogen balance. We can prevent this rebound effect by supplementing further with another AI or SERM. So, I suggest that when you are coming to the end of your cycle you will more than likely be using Nolva in your PCT so just make sure that you begin taking nolva the last day you are going to take your letro and then continue on as you would with regular PCT.

This now leads us into the question of reversing gyno while not on cycle. There are a few things to remember here. You have already waited longer than you should have, and your sex drive will be shot. You can use tribulus or another natural test booster to help you in this scenario but I can’t guarantee the effectiveness. Just follow gyno reversal protocols 2 or 3. When coming off again you must taper and begin using nolvadex to prevent any rebound effect that may occur.

How much nolvadex should you use if you are not going into PCT and running this off cycle? I suggest starting at 20mg ED for a week and then lowering it to 10mg for another week and then coming off completely.

GET LETRO HERE: Letrozole 30mL 2.5mg/mL

hey bouncer, new to this site and read this stuff stated above and i had a few questions.

first off ill lay everything out, im almost 21yrs old and was dumb enough to try out Purus Labs Halovar this past summer. i only took an OTC pct adn noticed some puffy nips and sure enough a few months later, i can feel a slight bump under my left nip, and not as noticeable on the right, but its still there.

i gave my nips a squeeze and there was a little discharge, barely anything, but still freaky stuff.

anyways i just bought some Letrozol 2.5mg pills from my guy after reading this article and ive been going by what youve said.

I have a bottle of IBE Epistane as well and my main question is that if Epi is basically an anti-e, is it wise to take it with teh letro? or should i just run letro on its own?

you've seem to help many others solve there problem with this, so any input would be greatly appreciated.

(sorry for ranting)

[Bouncer]

From what i've read so far, letro seems to carry alot of side effects. Since it has only been a few days since it appeared and it is still soft could nolva take care of it or is it too late?

Yea nolva can work on new gyno. 20 mgs per day

[Bouncer]

hey bouncer, new to this site and read this stuff stated above and i had a few questions.

first off ill lay everything out, im almost 21yrs old and was dumb enough to try out Purus Labs Halovar this past summer. i only took an OTC pct adn noticed some puffy nips and sure enough a few months later, i can feel a slight bump under my left nip, and not as noticeable on the right, but its still there.

i gave my nips a squeeze and there was a little discharge, barely anything, but still freaky stuff.

anyways i just bought some Letrozol 2.5mg pills from my guy after reading this article and ive been going by what youve said.

I have a bottle of IBE Epistane as well and my main question is that if Epi is basically an anti-e, is it wise to take it with teh letro? or should i just run letro on its own?

you've seem to help many others solve there problem with this, so any input would be greatly appreciated.

(sorry for ranting)

Run Letro alone

[BOSS]

I went ahead and ordered some letro based on your previous reply. Should i order some nolva as well? Basically tell me what to get and what doses to take and I will give it a shot.

[BOSS]

Also I have a little pre existing gyno so if there is any chance the letro will get rid of that then im definately game.

[Bouncer]

just run the letro low dose sinse the issue is small. .5mgs for a month.