How To Get Rid Of Gyno With Letro (Femara)

[Bouncer]

i really dont know much about HCG bro as I've never used it or paid much attention to it. bunch of peeps here know much more about it than me. hopefully they can respond.

if you have gyno I would have stayed on the test at a dose of something like 300mgs per week while running the letro.

believe it or not by dropping the test you have a great chance of getting worse gyno. your test levels will colapse but your estro levels will stay elevated. its all about ratios. you want a balance or higher test to estro ratio. when estro is higher you have the hormonal environment of a woman, literally.

[bigsean]

ok well i still have some test. should i just jump back on 300 and run the letro until i level out and then tamoxifen off both? thanks for the advice. makes a lot of sense.

[bigsean]

let me clarify. i have a buddy who knows more about this than me. he is telling me to come off everything, wait a week on .25adex, start hcg at day seven, run ten days at 500iu ed, start 40 mg ed tamoxifen x 2 weeks and 30 for 2 weeks. i took one day off of tamox and felt the lumps get painful and bigger. ive been taking 40mg per day the last three days and they have gotten smaller but they are still quite large. I am about to start my hcg to try to bring my test back up while keeping my estrogen down. should i run the letro and hcg together, would that help at all and then follow up with tamox and adex?

[Bouncer]

The only thing needed to get rid of gyno is letro. Let's keep on topic. No need to nolvadex on letro. Hcg I can't help you with.

[Chadd77]

As soon as I take test gyno starts to set in. Even at very low doses (150mg test e5d). As soon as I stop my cycle the gyno goes away about 5 weeks later. This may not be typical for most but is very consistent for me.

[bigsean]

ok thanks for the help bouncer i really appreciate it.

[Bouncer]

Just focus on one thing bro. Gyno. Nothing else matters. Get rid of it then worry about other goals. People get lost with so much shit in their head and forget the obvious issue.

[chuckz28]

As soon as I take test gyno starts to set in. Even at very low doses (150mg test e5d). As soon as I stop my cycle the gyno goes away about 5 weeks later. This may not be typical for most but is very consistent for me.

I just read a post from an MD today that said for the people that have to treat it to have 5 half lives of adex before starting the cycle. He said to start your adex 2 weeks prior to beginning testosterone and it should avoid further growth as long as you are dosed correctly.
Some people require up to 4x as much as others. Only way to know is blood work.
He also said that although SERMS may result in a reduction of pre-existing gynecomastia. there is no evidence any SERM causes or results in cellular necrosis or apoptosis, which would be required for the therapeutic reversal to be long lasting or "permanent".

[StanG]

I just read a post from an MD today that said for the people that have to treat it to have 5 half lives of adex before starting the cycle. He said to start your adex 2 weeks prior to beginning testosterone and it should avoid further growth as long as you are dosed correctly.
Some people require up to 4x as much as others. Only way to know is blood work.
He also said that although SERMS may result in a reduction of pre-existing gynecomastia. there is no evidence any SERM causes or results in cellular necrosis or apoptosis, which would be required for the therapeutic reversal to be long lasting or "permanent".

What he is saying is not true. There are studies on ralox and tamox that both show cell death as a result of administration. In fact at least 2 ralox studies show more significant cellular apoptosis than with ai's.

[DECABEATZ]

I WILL GIVE LETRO A TRY WITH MY SMALL LUMP I HAVE UNDER LEFT NIPPLE. THANKS!

[WickedCamaroSS]

I have had very slight, what I THINK is gyno. No hard lumps under my nipples, just have had puffy nipples for a while now, and im pretty low BF, around 9% or a little lower and im 5'10" 190lbs. (very vascular and well defined abs) but have had puffy nips. Been lifting hard and clean diet for over 6 years now and never done a cycle but planning to do a test only one in the near future. But need to get rid of these damn puffy nips first. Ordered 2 bottles of Letro 2.5mg/ml, gunna start off at .5mg ED (which would be 0.2ml correct?) for the first 4-6 weeks and adjust dose if needed, then taper off slowly over a 2-3 week period. Will keep updated on results.

[WickedCamaroSS]

Also, any bad reactions between letro and GH? Ive been on 2iu's per day for about the last 3 months, should I stop the GH while using the Letro? Thanks for any advice.

[Bouncer]

Wicked what are you using steroid wise that is causing the puffy nips? Have you been using anything to control it? Like nolv or adex? Reason I ask is because if they are just puffy adex which is much easier on the body may be just what you need.

I'd start out lower than .5 at first bro. Letro is really strong shit and will leave you feeling like crap especially if you jump right into it. We all need a little bit of estrogen to feel good and letro will just drop estro to nothing. great for getting rid of gyno but shitty for how it makes you feel. I'd start out at .25mgs ED for a month and see where you are.

No bad interactions with GH bro.

[WickedCamaroSS]

Wicked what are you using steroid wise that is causing the puffy nips? Have you been using anything to control it? Like nolv or adex? Reason I ask is because if they are just puffy adex which is much easier on the body may be just what you need.

I'd start out lower than .5 at first bro. Letro is really strong shit and will leave you feeling like crap especially if you jump right into it. We all need a little bit of estrogen to feel good and letro will just drop estro to nothing. great for getting rid of gyno but shitty for how it makes you feel. I'd start out at .25mgs ED for a month and see where you are.

No bad interactions with GH bro.

Never done any sort of AAS, yet.... I am planning a first test only cycle in the near future though. I have had puffy nips for awhile, they just sort of got puffy and it has never gone away no matter how low my bf% goes. So letro will help with the puffy nips I just should be careful because it's really strong?

[Bouncer]

Never done any sort of AAS, yet.... I am planning a first test only cycle in the near future though. I have had puffy nips for awhile, they just sort of got puffy and it has never gone away no matter how low my bf% goes. So letro will help with the puffy nips I just should be careful because it's really strong?

This changes things brother.

Gyno is not just puffy nips. Gyno is actually a hard lump of tissue under the nipple. Letro is the second to last resort before surgery that will remove this lump. The downside is that it's harsh shit and while you run it you will feel 98 years old.

If you just have puffy nips and have never run steroids I would recommend low dose adex aka arimadex. Does the same thing as letro just much milder. Your issue is most likely a hormone ratio problem. progesterone and or estrogen is out of balance with your test levels. .25mgs of Adex everyday will almost certainly cure this.