Question about homosexuals

[Chris]

Originally posted by MuGGsy
Timber maybe you should brush up on reality, black people are born black, gay people are born people, you make choices you don't chose to become a race you chose to live a lifestyle.

Can I just say that is about the most ignorant comment I have ever heard. It's not a lifestyle jackass. I don't know about you, but when your attracted to someone, you fucking know it! You don't choose who to be attacted to. I know I sure as hell don't. I always wonder how stupid people like you are. I mean who would pick to make thier life harder, I sure as hell know my life isn't easier because of this "choice" that "I made". I had to fucking hide who I was in high school, because of narrow minded assholes like you, but rumors spread and my life became a freaking hell. My car got vandalized twice, I got fucking beaen up by 4 guys, and I got taunghted to an extreme. You tell me, WHY WOULD I CHOOSE THAT?

Chris

[Breeze]

If two guys want to hump each other thats fine with me- more girls for me to choose from- what bothers me is the way many gay people want to force everyone to celebrate their homosexuality- It is not natural for 2 men to have sex- period. If people are gay, fine, I don't care. But don't expect a pat on the back from people. People have a right to be gay and I have a right to find it disgusting- I'm not "homophobic". That would mean that I am afraid of gays. I'm not afraid of them- I just find them disgusting.

[Chris]

No one is forcing anyone to celebrate anything Breeze. I am simply trying to figure out why someone would choose this. If it's an easy answer it sure escapes my knowledge.

Chris

[Lexi]

The funny thing is, all these gay bashers try to sound eloquent and smart in there arguments but they are missing the whole thing. They, not being gay, THINK they know shit about it.
Gay people do not choose it, infact a little cousin of my friend was about 4 years old when he started to play with girlie things. YES, his father tried to have him play football, YES his father tried to "STEER" him into a different direction but it never happened. WHY??? Because that can not be changed.
Me being bi, I could never say, "Oh ok, I'll just never like women again"
STUPID STUPID arguments...

[Chris]

Oh yea, when people say its the environment a child grew up it, I love it just as much as I love "the choice" theory. My brother and I grew up in the same environment, SAME EXACT ONE. I didn't play with girl toys, I had sports shit from day one. I also had everthing a normal boy kid had, nothing a girl would like. I even played sports! OMG :eek: ! So can someone answer my question, since MuGGsy couldn't? In a serious matter that is.

Chris

[Lexi]

Chris there will always be ignorant people. They will never be able to answer your question because no matter what, they will continue to think that gay people CHOOSE their lifestyle.
Yeah, just as much as they choose their "straight" lifestyle. Hell, they could like the opposite sex if they wanted too. (Oozing with sarcasm)
Obviously thats not true, and the samy applies to anyone who is gay. You dont CHOOSE it.

[Puddles]

Exactly, just as straight people can't enjoy someone of the same sex, gay people can't enjoy someone of the opposite sex. It's not something people choose, it comes from the heart.

Men seem to have more issues (or at least they're the most vocal about it) against gay men vs. gay women. This is really apparent when it comes to being bi, most men are accepting of bi women yet they're predjudiced against bi men.

I wish more people would spend less time hating on people who are different than they are and spend more time embrasing the happiness a couple finds in expressing their love for one another, regardless of their sexuality.

For years I hid my bisexuality. Being married I was happy, but I still missed being with a woman. Fortunately my husband is understanding and he appreciates it as it's just a part of who I am. And just like most guys, he also gets a thrill out of it. LOL I've been lucky and all of my friends are accepting of me too. I doubt I'd be so lucky if I was a guy though.

I wonder what it is that makes men so uncomfortable with other gay or bi male friends, yet most women are fine with their gay and bi female friends?

[Chris]

I'm still patiently waiting for an answer as to why I chose to be hated. Anyone?

Chris

P.S. Puddles and Lexi rock :cool:

[Puddles]

Originally posted by Chris325
I'm still patiently waiting for an answer as to why I chose to be hated. Anyone?

Don't keep waiting, the only answers you'll get from people who hate will just be ignorant. Instead, just appreciate who you are and enjoy the time with the people who know better. :kiss:

[Lexi]

what cracks me up about all these "anti gay" guys is, they are the same guys jerkin off to lesbian porn.
If your gonna be a homophobe, then do it the right way, and dont be a hypocrit.

[lordikon]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about homosexuals

Originally posted by telephone
personally i do care..this is the kind of thinkin that is sendin this country to hell in a hand basket..if more people would take stand and not be so accepting of fucked up shit like same sex marriges and homosexual ministers things would be in less disarray..im ashamed of the way this country chooses to accept alt lifestyles..these are things i have to explain to my children..no offense to you personally jarhead, most people feel same as yo..i do not and will not ever accept it as ok..

I agree with Timber, it's thinking like this that scares me. People believe they have the right to judge others, as if they themselves knew what "right" was. When in fact, they only think they do. Who taught them what the right way to be was, and were those who taught them right either? The answer is that, nobody KNOWS anything, everything knows what they believe to be right, but that does not give them the right to tell others what is right or isn't right.
I'm straight myself, but if I wanted to marry a guy and someone told me no, they should fuck themselves, because it's not their business, and it's not their life. They can look other way, or whatever. I know they would get offended the second I told them what they could or could not do. If I want to marry 10 women, that should also be allowed, as long as all 10 off these women know about it, and agree about it. Of course in my opinion that would defeat the purpose of marriage, but I'm just stating for example.
As long as another person is not directly interfering with you, it shouldn't be a problem. Something of this nature might as well be called segregation. Telling people how to live, who they can and can't marry or fuck, or whatever. Luckily for the gay people their not as easy to distinguish as black people are by their skin color, or we would've had just as much problems with this issue as racial segregation. It's disgusting people are so narrow-minded. Sorry, just had to vent.

[imonboardtoo]

Just a simple observation. All human beings find it hard to relate to people they perceive as different. That's been document by science. The solution lies in interacting with those we find so different to recognize that there are more similarities than differences. Social scientists have repeatedly changed people's perceptions by giving them opportunities to get to know people who are different.

And, if you want to quote ANY religious text's condemnation of homosexuality, I'll quote you at least 10 passages in the same text that speak to acceptance, mercy, forgiveness and loving others. I don't fault religions/spirituality for any of this. Religions don't hurt people, IMO, because universally accepted religious leaders (not kooks) have been tolerant, loving people - every one of them. So, people who hurt other people are not the religious...they are the distorted. That's the nature of humanity. Wherever you go, there's going to be conflict and struggle with others because we just can't learn to be good to one another.

I sound kind of philosophical, and I don't mean to. But, I have thought about the really shitty stuff people do to others, and I'm shocked that we don't all see how tragic it is. The gay issue is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Chris]

Well, its our society that dictates whats right and wrong, IMO. My problem isn't with people who think like Telephone, he is sure as heck aloud ot have his opinion. While I certainly do not agree with his argument, he does have the right to hold it. When he feels he can enforce it upon an entire country, thats when I have the problem. Also, I think we as a society do have the right to say "A" is wrong and "B" is right to an extent, because there are most certainly somethings that are just wrong. If there is consent between two or more ;) people then there is NO reason to place a judgement on it. When I speak of things that are just wrong, I am speaking about having sex with animals and shit like that. Thats just wrong, IMO. I still await an answer to my question, I see you have posted other places MuGGsy and managed to avoid my question, but thats okay. I guess since i made my bed, I'll have to lie in it, won't I? :)

Chris

[imonboardtoo]

Chris...nobody has an answer to your question. You know that it's irreconcilable even for the guys who say it's wrong.

One point: The argument of those who feel being gay is morally wrong - and of course, a choice - is that gays will convert children through casual exposure (as teachers, ministers, coaches, etc) if we accept the lifestyle. And if homosexuality were a choice, that SHOULD be a concern. Since, it isn't - it doesn't hold true.

[Chris]

I'm sorry to disagree, but I think its really rude to say something like that and I think I deserve a response. I think they should tell me how they thought that theory up.

Chris