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    SAN DIEGO -- A San Diego woman said she drove home from Denver rather than submit to what she viewed as an intrusive search by airport security screeners.




    Ava Kingsford, 36, said she was flagged down for a pat-down search at Denver International Airport last month as she prepared to board a flight home with her 3-month-old son.

    Kingsford objected when a female screener with the Transportation Security Administration told her, "I'm going to feel your breasts now."

    "She was patting me down, and frisking me, and basically covering all parts of my body, my legs, and wanding me with the security wand. And when I thought she had completed her search, she looks at me and said, 'I'm going to be feeling your breasts now,'" Kingsford said. "I was stunned, and I said, 'I beg your pardon?!'"

    Kingsford said when she told the screener that she was uncomfortable with it, more security agents and police officers arrived. They told her that she couldn't board her flight without submitting to the final step of the search.

    "I was shaking, I was sobbing. I couldn't believe that this was happening to me. It was surreal. It was like out of a movie, with these guys yelling at me, telling me that, yes, she has to feel my breasts or I'm not getting on my airplane," Kingsford said.

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    Yes. This is unnecessary. You can see explosives or other hidden devices just by pulling a shirt tight.
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    They took her to a private area to continue the search, but she said she was still uncomfortable with them touching her breasts so she tugged down her shirt to show them that she wasn't hiding anything.

    "And then they said, 'That's it. We're not going to complete the search and you're not boarding your plane,'" Kingsford said. "They escorted us out and said they didn't care how we got home. It wasn't their problem."

    She and her fiance ended up renting a car for the 15-hour drive home.

    The Transportation Security Administration said its screeners did nothing wrong.

    The agency announced extra security measures last month in the wake of the mid-air bombing of two Russian jetliners. Authorities believe two women smuggled explosives onto the aircraft, possibly in "torso packs" underneath their clothing.

    Bob Kapp, customer service manager for the TSA in Denver, said that to conduct a thorough pat-down search of women, "it does require going beneath, between and above the breasts."

    Kapp said a few people have been a little bit alarmed by the procedure. But he called it "a sign of the times" that is probably here to stay.

    Kingsford said she's anxious about boarding another flight any time soon.

    "I don't see how they can get away with feeling women's breasts. I don't see how they can say it's part of their new security policy. It's an infringement, a violation, in my opinion. It's just wrong," Kingsford said.

    Kingsford said she had nothing to hide, and the TSA agents could plainly see that.

    "I was wearing a pretty form-fitting tank top. There's nothing really to be hiding. You could see my figure. I didn't have any packs. She had patted down my torso. She had completed the torso pat down and wanded me with a security wand but some reason she said she wanted to see my breasts," Kingsford said.

    "It was uncomfortable and I felt violated. And the way we were treated when I didn't concede was like I was a criminal. It was an awful experience," she said.

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    So what, a female officer wanted to feel her breast to make sure she wasnt hiding anything. For this women to be "sobbing and shaking" like she said is just stupid. The security screener was doing her job. If she hadnt and the lady did have a bomb of some sort, everyone would say "why didnt they search her better. This lady needs to stop being such a uptight jackass. Rented a car and drove 15 hours just for that. What a moron.

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    • #3
      If it was a male officer then I could see what she's saying, but it wasn't. Personally, i'd rather have a female frisk me than a man.

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      • #4
        yeah i'm with you guys... i think it was fully appropriate for the female TSN to want to check. a man would have been a different story

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        • #5
          The security lady deffinitely did nothing wrong. The lady is clearly overly sensative.

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          • #6
            how would you guys feel if the security officer asked to pat down your dick?

            it's the same thing.

            no matter how "oversensitive" you think this woman is, breasts are very intimate and i think she's well within her right to feel borderline assulted.

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            • #7
              Hell i would let him, because then i would be damn sure i was safe on the plane, because they were doing it to everyone. the ends justify the means. Hell it is for her own saftey, it was not like the damn lady was trying to cop a feel.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Titan
                Hell i would let him, because then i would be damn sure i was safe on the plane, because they were doing it to everyone. the ends justify the means. Hell it is for her own saftey, it was not like the damn lady was trying to cop a feel.
                but they didn't do it to everyone who stepped on the plane. she was randomly selected. if everyone else had been put through the same thing, it's a different story. but that's not how it was.

                and honestly - if you were there and some 6'5" fat sweaty dude says to you "i have to grab your crotch now" - do you REALLY think you'd just say "alright, have a feel"???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sana
                  how would you guys feel if the security officer asked to pat down your dick?

                  it's the same thing.

                  no matter how "oversensitive" you think this woman is, breasts are very intimate and i think she's well within her right to feel borderline assulted.
                  if a security officer felt that he needed to do that then so be it. i wouldnt have a problem with it. I damn sure wouldnt start shaking and crying and then drive 15 hours home like some jackass.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sana


                    and honestly - if you were there and some 6'5" fat sweaty dude says to you "i have to grab your crotch now" - do you REALLY think you'd just say "alright, have a feel"???
                    if it was some gay guy i would say can somone else do it please.

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                    • #11
                      i can tell you that i might not have been shaking and crying but i would have resisted for sure.

                      the overall security in airports sucks anyway. there's no rhyme or reason to how they select people. there's no consistency from one airport to another.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sana
                        i can tell you that i might not have been shaking and crying but i would have resisted for sure.

                        the overall security in airports sucks anyway. there's no rhyme or reason to how they select people. there's no consistency from one airport to another.
                        i can agree with that but what we are saying is that she over reacted and acted like a jackass.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
                          So what, a female officer wanted to feel her breast to make sure she wasnt hiding anything. For this women to be "sobbing and shaking" like she said is just stupid. The security screener was doing her job. If she hadnt and the lady did have a bomb of some sort, everyone would say "why didnt they search her better. This lady needs to stop being such a uptight jackass. Rented a car and drove 15 hours just for that. What a moron.
                          Amen! You could take some C-4, or Symtec plastic and flatten it out enough to conform to her breasts enough that it couldn't be seen, but could be felt if squeezed. Wouldn't take much to blow a BIG hole in the fuselage of a plane. BB

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                          • #14
                            The govt is over-reacting. The first sign of panicing is micro-managing. People just don't seem to get it. YOU CAN'T STOP TERRORISM. Israel has probably the number one security set up in the world. Has it stopped it there? Nope!! Terroism is stopped by getting out of peoples lives around the world and if they mess with us, we fuck them up. but we don't have a war on terroism. no one has ever said the truth that this "War" is as productive as the "War" on drugs. and we all know how well that went. The FAA seems to think it is god now, I think they need a swift kick in the nuts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stonecold54
                              The govt is over-reacting. The first sign of panicing is micro-managing. People just don't seem to get it. YOU CAN'T STOP TERRORISM. Israel has probably the number one security set up in the world. Has it stopped it there? Nope!! Terroism is stopped by getting out of peoples lives around the world and if they mess with us, we fuck them up. but we don't have a war on terroism. no one has ever said the truth that this "War" is as productive as the "War" on drugs. and we all know how well that went. The FAA seems to think it is god now, I think they need a swift kick in the nuts.
                              well hell, lets just not screen anyone then. let anyone get on a plane. come on bro. what would you have said if your wife was on the plane and some women had a bomb in her bra and your wife was killed because the Gov didnt check her?

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