hand gun owners

[buell]

uncle..your clips are the bomb..and on a side note i thought this was a thread on the best choice for female protection please stop while u are behind

[ROCKILLER]

All my mags are loaded and ready to go at all times...

And as for the thread being about female protection, if hi woman has a gun she should not only know how to shoot it but know that its OK to keep a mag loaded without fear of any spring "memory".

[decadecadeca]

Rocket is correct, springs do not "take a set" from being compressed.

It's the load/unload cycles that stress and fatigue a spring.

[basskiller]

getting her a gun is a bad idea. That gun could wind up be the weapon that takes her own life.
It takes serious nerve to take a life. Does she have that nerve? We all like to think we can, but when faced with that option, many fail..

I just know I wouldn't want to be the cause of someone I loves death.. either directly or indirectly.

Think about it!!

[Bouncer]

getting her a gun is a bad idea. That gun could wind up be the weapon that takes her own life.
It takes serious nerve to take a life. Does she have that nerve? We all like to think we can, but when faced with that option, many fail..

I just know I wouldn't want to be the cause of someone I loves death.. either directly or indirectly.

Think about it!!

wtf? what you talken about willis.

[the art of war]

getting her a gun is a bad idea. That gun could wind up be the weapon that takes her own life.
It takes serious nerve to take a life. Does she have that nerve? We all like to think we can, but when faced with that option, many fail..

I just know I wouldn't want to be the cause of someone I loves death.. either directly or indirectly.

Think about it!!

:wack:

[ROCKETW19]

uncle..your clips are the bomb..and on a side note i thought this was a thread on the best choice for female protection please stop while u are behind

Look retard they are not clips they are mags. So please know what you are talking about before opening your mouth. If I were to be behind you I would be raping your punk ass so please stay ahead of me.

[mofo]

i'm sure anyone is willing to take a life if they're own life or the life of someone they love is in danger.

[basskiller]

wtf? what you talken about willis.

unless I misunderstood the question..

Im thinking about getting a pistol for my gf,she has shot plenty with me,so I was thinking a glock 23 the mid size 40cal,its small enough for her to carry if needed

having a gun on your person could spell more danger than not having one if the gf would happen to pull it and be afraid to shoot? Thats all I'm saying

[buell]

Not a fan of glocks at all. This is a true story, I bought a glock 17( I belive) the first ones that came out went to the range shot it couldnt hit the side of a barn. went home tryed it again still couldnt hit the barn so this time when I got home I gave yes gave it to my brother for free I hated it so much,lol.

Give her your HK45. do you have the HK45 or the USP45. I have usp9 and my next hand gun will be the HK45

power down killa..so u couldnt hit the barn at the range so u went home and still couldnt hit the barn so one would might deduct from above text that u transported said barn home well no wonder u couldnt hit the barn,hell nobody could after all the work it took to get the barn home..hey u wrote not me so lightin up butt fucker..and on a side note all though i dont like the glock my self but who can argue with the loyal who swear by it and i know a ass load of em

[ROCKILLER]

having a gun on your person could spell more danger than not having one if the gf would happen to pull it and be afraid to shoot? Thats all I'm saying

definitely a valid point and something that you should think about.

[buell]

definitely a valid point and something that you should think about.

agreed...and now can we wrap this thead up...

[funniirishman]

I will jump in here real quick as I just saw this thread. Firearms for personal protection come down almost exclusively to personal preference . She has to have something that she feels comfortable with, that doesn't intimidate her, and that she knows will function when she needs it.

Alot of females I deal with I expose to revolvers because they are basic handguns that will not fail in a gunfight. There are many variables you need to think about if you buy her an automatic...magazine change under duress, combat reload, tactical reload, and stable and firm firing platform..if you limp wrist that type of firearm you will cause a malfunction. Revolvers are small, come in alot of different flavors--airweight, LCR, 4 inch, 2 inch etc. provide five or six shots and you have a multiple choice of ammunition type with alot of them.

For instance, my wife carries an Airweight .38. Its light, compact, and the variation of rounds you can get for it can reflect the level of shooter. ++P, Glaser safety slugs (frangible ammo), the list goes on. For the house, we put Glaser safety slugs...less penetration into surrounding walls etc. For out and about she uses +P Hydroshoks..penetration and stopping power. The primary concern for me was that in a deadly force encounter it won't fail--yes there could be a catastrophic mechanism failure for those of you who deal in absolutes--however I don't think anyone here can detail many, if any, of those with a revolver well taken care of and not used everyday, and I feel extremely confident that it won't fail in a combat or deadly force encounter--less moving parts can be better in this situation--no coming out of battery, failure to cycle because of grip, application etc. double feed--you get the picture. Essentially you pull it out and you put 5 or 6 rounds into the bad guy. If she isn't an everyday shooter with progressive handgun skills this might be your best bet.

In reference to a deadly force situation and losing the gun, this is a very real concern. Me personally I wouldn't buy my wife or girlfriend a firearm for personal protection and not teach her how to use it within those parameters. I wouldn't buy her a motorcycle and not teach her to ride. Its setting her up for failure with possible real world consequences. She needs to develop a skill set and muscle memory surrounding that firearm..how is she going to carry it, where is she going to carry it, how is she going to get to it if she needs it..all take practical application through practice. Developing and understanding a combat mindset takes training. She needs to understand and train to the standard that she is capable of and may have to use it. For some people this can be a real issue and, again just for me, its a deal breaker. If you can't wrap your head around using a firearm in that situation there is no reason to create it.

Those are my two cents. hope it helped.

[blm]

In reference to a deadly force situation and losing the gun, this is a very real concern. Me personally I wouldn't buy my wife or girlfriend a firearm for personal protection and not teach her how to use it within those parameters. I wouldn't buy her a motorcycle and not teach her to ride. Its setting her up for failure with possible real world consequences. She needs to develop a skill set and muscle memory surrounding that firearm..how is she going to carry it, where is she going to carry it, how is she going to get to it if she needs it..all take practical application through practice. Developing and understanding a combat mindset takes training. She needs to understand and train to the standard that she is capable of and may have to use it. For some people this can be a real issue and, again just for me, its a deal breaker. If you can't wrap your head around using a firearm in that situation there is no reason to create it.

Agreed 100%

[the art of war]

I will jump in here real quick as I just saw this thread. Firearms for personal protection come down almost exclusively to personal preference . She has to have something that she feels comfortable with, that doesn't intimidate her, and that she knows will function when she needs it.

Alot of females I deal with I expose to revolvers because they are basic handguns that will not fail in a gunfight. There are many variables you need to think about if you buy her an automatic...magazine change under duress, combat reload, tactical reload, and stable and firm firing platform..if you limp wrist that type of firearm you will cause a malfunction. Revolvers are small, come in alot of different flavors--airweight, LCR, 4 inch, 2 inch etc. provide five or six shots and you have a multiple choice of ammunition type with alot of them.

For instance, my wife carries an Airweight .38. Its light, compact, and the variation of rounds you can get for it can reflect the level of shooter. ++P, Glaser safety slugs (frangible ammo), the list goes on. For the house, we put Glaser safety slugs...less penetration into surrounding walls etc. For out and about she uses +P Hydroshoks..penetration and stopping power. The primary concern for me was that in a deadly force encounter it won't fail--yes there could be a catastrophic mechanism failure for those of you who deal in absolutes--however I don't think anyone here can detail many, if any, of those with a revolver well taken care of and not used everyday, and I feel extremely confident that it won't fail in a combat or deadly force encounter--less moving parts can be better in this situation--no coming out of battery, failure to cycle because of grip, application etc. double feed--you get the picture. Essentially you pull it out and you put 5 or 6 rounds into the bad guy. If she isn't an everyday shooter with progressive handgun skills this might be your best bet.

In reference to a deadly force situation and losing the gun, this is a very real concern. Me personally I wouldn't buy my wife or girlfriend a firearm for personal protection and not teach her how to use it within those parameters. I wouldn't buy her a motorcycle and not teach her to ride. Its setting her up for failure with possible real world consequences. She needs to develop a skill set and muscle memory surrounding that firearm..how is she going to carry it, where is she going to carry it, how is she going to get to it if she needs it..all take practical application through practice. Developing and understanding a combat mindset takes training. She needs to understand and train to the standard that she is capable of and may have to use it. For some people this can be a real issue and, again just for me, its a deal breaker. If you can't wrap your head around using a firearm in that situation there is no reason to create it.

Those are my two cents. hope it helped.

Good post bro. Owning a firearm and being in control of it are totally separate situations! Well put.