Hey Gods Son

[Scrumhalf]

As a scientist, I think religion is a waste of time. But if it makes you happy, go for it. I am not going to assail anyone for following religion. People do lots of things with their time that I wouldn't consider doing - if it floats their boat, who am I to object.

But religion needs to stay a personal thing. When people start forcing their religion on others, or changing national or educational policy based on their religious beliefs, or claiming religion to be equivalent to science in rational thought, then of course the gloves come off.

Perhaps a compromise on this board is to not berate or needle others for their beliefs, but to take them to task if they make claims that are inconsistent with rational thought.

[decadecadeca]

Perhaps a compromise on this board is to not berate or needle others for their beliefs, but to take them to task if they make claims that are inconsistent with rational thought.

You mean act like real adult human beings?

Crazy talk!

[Shibby]

But religion needs to stay a personal thing. When people start forcing their religion on others, or changing national or educational policy based on their religious beliefs, or claiming religion to be equivalent to science in rational thought, then of course the gloves come off.

Exactly. I'll keep my life out of religion when religion is kept out of my life. Seems fair but we know it will never happen.The imperialistic nature of religion makes this impossible. Bouncer tries to tell me to ignore it all. Maybe it's because he doesn't have kids or simply lives a specific enough life that it doesn't effect him. But it has it's hand in just about every part of life, so living life free from religion is impossible. I always like to give a general reminder that freedom of religion includes freedom from religion.

Perhaps a compromise on this board is to not berate or needle others for their beliefs, but to take them to task if they make claims that are inconsistent with rational thought.

It sounds easy enough but the whole concept of faith is irrational. That's why it's called faith. I always try to discuss things respectfully at first. Then the more redicoulous things get it's a tailspin for everyone.

[decadecadeca]

..... I'll keep my life out of religion when religion is kept out of my life. Seems fair but we know it will never happen.The imperialistic nature of religion makes this impossible. .......But it has it's hand in just about every part of life, so living life free from religion is impossible......

Please cite a few examples of how religion has intruded into your life this week and how it has negatively effected you.

[Bouncer]

Youll have to throw me out lmao

that option has been on the table for awhile! :rofl:

[Tizz]

Drunk driver kills a family with a baby, a 4 year old, a 7 year old and the drunk driver walks away. Why wouldn't god just drive that drunk driver into a tree?

A child is kidnapped and raped.

Columbine

9/11

Amish school shooting - [Carl Roberts IV took hostages and eventually shot ten girls (aged 6–13), killing five, before committing suicide in the schoolhouse. (lumber, a shotgun, a stun-gun, wires, chains, nails, tools and a small bag. Also brought into the classroom was a length of wooden board with multiple sets of metal eye-hooks. The contents of the bag included a change of clothes, toilet paper, candles, KY jelly and flexible plastic ties.)

Andrea Yates drowned all five of her children.

Wow you really just don't get it. I'm not a religious nut, but most christians believe there is good and evil. Ya know how Satan was an angel at once and he fell from heaven? Well there is a constant battle between good and evil and like in the examples you provide, good doesn't always win. Sometimes the devil wins. Is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

[Shibby]

Wow you really just don't get it. I'm not a religious nut, but most christians believe there is good and evil. Ya know how Satan was an angel at once and he fell from heaven? Well there is a constant battle between good and evil and like in the examples you provide, good doesn't always win. Sometimes the devil wins. Is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

Omnipotence...

[Shibby]

Please cite a few examples of how religion has intruded into your life this week and how it has negatively effected you.

Just a few? Will 1 or 2 justify any in my life? Will 5 or more earn me bonus points? I don't have a problem getting into it, I just want to better understand what you are trying to find out.

[decadecadeca]

How about three?

Three simple examples of how you have been personally abused by religion this week.

[Bouncer]

Wow you really just don't get it. I'm not a religious nut, but most christians believe there is good and evil. Ya know how Satan was an angel at once and he fell from heaven? Well there is a constant battle between good and evil and like in the examples you provide, good doesn't always win. Sometimes the devil wins. Is that so difficult for you to comprehend?

i thought god was all powerful and perfect?

perfection doesn't loose any battle. :(

[Bouncer]

How about three?

Three simple examples of how you have been personally abused by religion this week.

he walked into 3 churches and each time the preacher "personally abused" him. :hibb:

[decadecadeca]

he walked into 3 churches and each time the preacher "personally abused" him. :hibb:

Then he should consider himself lucky.

Lots of folks pay good money for kinky shit like that and he got it for free.

[Bouncer]

lol.

you see gods son, if you were more like deca you would get more respect.

he might be a little religious but he also has a mind. take some notes you dumb prick.

[Shibby]

How about three?

Three simple examples of how you have been personally abused by religion this week.

1 that happens around once a week is someone trying to scare my son into going to hell if he doesn't believe.

The traffic jam the church down the street constantly causes after leaving all their constant stuff they do at the church; and then some dipshit walking out in the road to stop cars to let the church goers out of the parking lot. It's their choice to go to church, if they have to wait for an opening to leave the parking lot then so be it.

For my wife, an christian anti-abortion protest with people standing between lanes holding their signs to get the most attention. People having to worry about hitting them instead of focusing on normal driving.

[Bouncer]

1 that happens around once a week is someone trying to scare my son into going to hell if he doesn't believe.

The traffic jam the church down the street constantly causes after leaving all their constant stuff they do at the church; and then some dipshit walking out in the road to stop cars to let the church goers out of the parking lot. It's their choice to go to church, if they have to wait for an opening to leave the parking lot then so be it.

For my wife, an christian anti-abortion protest with people standing between lanes holding their signs to get the most attention. People having to worry about hitting them instead of focusing on normal driving.

the first 1 would piss me off to.

those other 2 you just made up to add to your list. :D