this very thread is just a microcosm of what fagism is doing to this once strong country .... sad sad days ahead
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You quote me to try and make me sound contradictory. The problem is with your reading and connecting dots where there are none. I played your little game even though it was obvious before I gave my reasons I knew it wasn't going to matter what I said. You will hold onto your blind faith regardless.Originally posted by decadecadeca View PostPeople who walk through life always looking for a reason to be offended usually find one.
Folks who just roll along and mind their own business rarely have that problem.
Good luck with your issues either way bro, I wish you nothing but the best with it.
You act like it has to be all about me every second of the day for me to have a justifiable problem with religion. Have you never seen someone suffering at the acts of others and understood that it was wrong? Did it it make you want to stand up for those people that can't and along side those who can? You have proven that what I said earlier about you and your faith only being skin deep. You just want to close your eyes and pretend like everything is fine the way things are. I on the other hand want to see equality for everyone not just equality for those who share my beliefs. I have friends that are gay and their hardships due to your faith effects me. Why wouldn't it, I care about them. What kind of world do you want your kids to grow up in? I want one where people are treated with more dignity than what religion does. Should I just sit back and hope it happens? No, that won't work. So I do what I can.
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Scrumhalf says that people should keep religion personal and shouldn't try ramming it down others peoples throats. You agreed with him Shibby. Let me just say that so far since I've been on this board, what I know about you is that you are a good debater, you are intelligent, and you are an atheist. I know nothing else about you. So just a thought, maybe instead of thinking everyone is ramming religion down your throat you should stop ramming your non-religion down peoples throats. So far that's what I see you do constantly. I admit that some of the messages on here from certain people of faith are a bit concerning, and it seems that they are deliberately setting themselves up for argument, but as I said earlier, talking about non-religion all the time is no different than someone talking about religion all the time. I have respect for you because you believe something and you stick to your guns to defend it. I have left my thoughts and beliefs out of these threads because they are my beliefs and I'm not here to persuade, or force on anyone what I believe, so all I can ask is respect in return.:)Originally posted by Shibby View PostExactly. I'll keep my life out of religion when religion is kept out of my life. Seems fair but we know it will never happen.The imperialistic nature of religion makes this impossible. Bouncer tries to tell me to ignore it all. Maybe it's because he doesn't have kids or simply lives a specific enough life that it doesn't effect him. But it has it's hand in just about every part of life, so living life free from religion is impossible. I always like to give a general reminder that freedom of religion includes freedom from religion.
It sounds easy enough but the whole concept of faith is irrational. That's why it's called faith. I always try to discuss things respectfully at first. Then the more redicoulous things get it's a tailspin for everyone.
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Here's my thing with all that. Besides this thread (which stemmed off another thread) when was the last time I started the discussion. As you stated people set themselves up. They bring it up and I talk about it. It seems like I always end up getting the same response about being in the discussion. As if I'm not allowed to talk about it when ever it comes up but everyone else is. There are a lot of threads with car talk that can turn a bit heated. It's usually the same people in those threads. It's the same thing with me and religion threads.Originally posted by mormonmuscle View PostScrumhalf says that people should keep religion personal and shouldn't try ramming it down others peoples throats. You agreed with him Shibby. Let me just say that so far since I've been on this board, what I know about you is that you are a good debater, you are intelligent, and you are an atheist. I know nothing else about you. So just a thought, maybe instead of thinking everyone is ramming religion down your throat you should stop ramming your non-religion down peoples throats. So far that's what I see you do constantly. I admit that some of the messages on here from certain people of faith are a bit concerning, and it seems that they are deliberately setting themselves up for argument, but as I said earlier, talking about non-religion all the time is no different than someone talking about religion all the time. I have respect for you because you believe something and you stick to your guns to defend it. I have left my thoughts and beliefs out of these threads because they are my beliefs and I'm not here to persuade, or force on anyone what I believe, so all I can ask is respect in return.:)
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i see both sides on this one...
wtf the bible stories are nutty as hell. i know you not suppose to take the bible literally but some of the stories are so ridiculous "god took one rib from adam and used it to make eve" gtfo and the zombie god rises from the dead. its gods "will" if a brick fell on you and killed you when you walked past the construction site. really? is its? fucking stupid.
anthesist pride shit is gay...it became popular to be anthelist all of a sudden. self righteous, masters of the unvervise and all knowing people. we believe in nothing, dont have any morals or have to be descent to anyone. wow how fucking convienent. so lets make fun of everyone else for being sooo stupid. dont forget were better than you cuz were smart LOLz. its the same thing i hate about the religious nuts and how that look at other ppl.Last edited by jack tors; 09-04-10, 10:32 AM.
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