more innocent children killed by guns in US

[Mr I]

Putting a ban on guns isnt going to stop crazy people from owning guns. It will just creat a black market in which people will still buy whatever they want. This is a terrorist attck really. But its like putting a ban on steroids, we all take so what did that ban do, nothing at all. Its terrible what happened but placing a ban on guns wont stop terrorist attacks like this.

it would reduce.the murder rate in the USA over time, its trully as simple as that.

[Mr I]

Most people realize that bans on anything are rarely effective.

false, ban on guns reduces murder rate, didn't.completely.stop it, but wolff dramatically improve it over time.

[Mr I]

I am frankly disgusted by why nobody is asking why this is happening so often here and not in other countries. Until we have an honest self examination about this, we are not going to make progress. And not allowing crazies to get hold of assault weapons, while not the whole answer, HAS to be part of the discussion.

I don't understand what you feel has been ommitted from the.discussion when my opening post states my thoughts. However, there is one other problem in US that does i feel impact on this problem, something I've also been telling you about but you trek me I'm whacky; big corp pharma, their influence on doctors dishing out meds, more adicts in US than anywhere, when they eventually go nuts from prescription meds, they lose job, lose medical.cover, even finish up on hard shit, go nuts

[Bouncer]

Mr.I the issue is that most murders in the US with guns are NOT owned legally. So banning guns will only work for people that follow the law in the first place. And as long as guns are manufactured anywhere in the world, criminals will find a way to get them.

Just a thought bro, most rec drugs are banned in the US. Banning meth for example has not slowed down its use in any sense.

I am not a "gun guy" at all but even I know you are being very naive to think that when you make something illegal that will somehow make it harder to get..

[Mr I]

Mr.I the issue is that most murders in the US with guns are NOT owned legally. So banning guns will only work for people that follow the law in the first place. And as long as guns are manufactured anywhere in the world, criminals will find a way to get them.

Just a thought bro, most rec drugs are banned in the US. Banning meth for example has not slowed down its use in any sense.

I am not a "gun guy" at all but even I know you are being very naive to think that when you make something illegal that will somehow make it harder to get..

all old arguments thrown up by NRL types, drugs are completely different issue.

look at gun death stats.bro, you country vs others with proper gun control, your old.theories are demolished

[Bouncer]

all old arguments thrown up by NRL types, drugs are completely different issue.

look at gun death stats.bro, you country vs others with proper gun control, your old.theories are demolished

i have no idea what an "NRL type" even is. i know nothing at all about guns. but this is a common sense issue.

you repeat the same thing over and over without giving true facts and evidence. post your real facts with links, don't expect anyone to just take you for your word on the matter. link to real sources.

drugs are not a different issue. the point is, to make something illegal does nothing to stop people from getting what they want.

and need i remind you, you are the one that brought drugs into the conversation.

[Mr I]

children are dying slaughtered in your own.country because of your stupidity, THINK!

[Bouncer]

children are drying slaughtered in your own.country because of your stupidity, THINK!

Time and a place to try and get people worked up bro. You start crossing a line with your trolling when you start blaming people on a steroid forum for the murders of little kids. Get a hold of yourself, clear your mind and focus. You have that tendency to fall hard and I can see it in you now. Your mind is negative and nothing good ever comes from that. If you need another pep talk from your idol gimme a call and I will help you right after I get done yelling at you for acting like a fucken troll.

[Bouncer]

Also, what does everyone suggest for a good basic all around handgun. Thinking about picking one up. Thanks guys.

[Mr I]

Time and a place to try and get people worked up bro. You start crossing a line with your trolling when you start blaming people on a steroid forum for the murders of little kids. Get a hold of yourself, clear your mind and focus. You have that tendency to fall hard and I can see it in you now. Your mind is negative and nothing good ever comes from that. If you need another pep talk from your idol gimme a call and I will help you right after I get done yelling at you for acting like a fucken troll.

bullshit digression, your country needs countrywide control if.gunshot, not state, its a serious problem, needs A grownups response but I can see its very difficult and unpopulatar to get from where you are now to a good place.

oh well, untill the next time...

[Bouncer]

bullshit digression, your country needs countrywide control if.gunshot, not state, its a serious problem, needs A grownups response but I can see its very difficult and unpopulatar to get from where you are now to a good place.

oh well, untill the next time...

that's enough now fat boy. let focus. get your mind right. i know the jet lag and hormona fluctuations are tough but we are on the same side. listen to your idol when i tell you making things illegal does not work.

the only true way to stop it is to stop making weapons world wide and even then you would see UG gun labs pop up.

trust me when i tell you older gent, your thought process is incorrect and ignorant.

[Mr I]

how come it works here then?

[Bouncer]

it doesn't. people still get murdered by guns there. at a lesser rate yes but you are a much smaller softer nation.

the bigger issue is the culture. you are talking about the nation famous for the wild west. is it really fare to compare a nation famous for tea to a nation of hard asses and cowboys? come on bro, its like saying younger men get in more fights then old ladies..

the absolute fact remains. if a bad guy wants a gun in England he can get one. this is not up for argument.

just like with drugs. making things illegal does not make them go away. FACT that cannot be disputed.

[Mr I]

fact and degree bouncer, oh well I tried

[Bouncer]

tell you one thing, if i had a gun i would probably shoot you with it...