Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht sentenced to life in prison

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^OMG

You speak about them as if they were gods

They were tycoon enslaves and much of what they wrote is horrifically out of date

Couldn't disagree with you more. If you spend time reading what they wrote, you will find that they are more relevant today than ever. Pretty timeless, actually. You need to really read what they wrote rather than just go with what is popularly said about them, like they were slave owners or whatever.

[funniirishman]

Not debating the perversion of the criminal justice system...that's a lengthy convo...but this guy was kinda of a huge piece of shit that got what was coming to him...the Silk Road was designed almost exclusively as a place to host criminal enterprise...from murder for hire, to narcotics, to child rape, etc...if it was fucked up you could find it there...and this guy didn't just host a site..he made a bout 18 million dollars doing it that they could track. Sooooooo if you design a place where people can solicit all manner of illegal activity up to and including murder...then you get whats coming to you when they slam the door. Do stupid tricks win stupid prizes.

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Agreed, not debating his guilt. He definitely seems to be a POS... Just was surprised by life without parole.

[funniirishman]

Yeah honestly the without parole part interesting. I am curious if it was under a mandatory sentencing guideline or something...Actually what I just read it was the maximum that the judge could give him under the sentencing guidelines..two life sentences, and three lesser sentences. Wouldn't be surprised to see the sentence shortened on appeal after this all dies down.

[Mr I]

Couldn't disagree with you more. If you spend time reading what they wrote, you will find that they are more relevant today than ever. Pretty timeless, actually. You need to really read what they wrote rather than just go with what is POPULARLY said about them, like they were slave owners or whatever.

100% emotive 0% thought process from you as ever, mine is hardly the popular opinion. THINK!

[Mr I]

Not debating the perversion of the criminal justice system...that's a lengthy convo...but this guy was kinda of a huge piece of shit that got what was coming to him...the Silk Road was designed almost exclusively as a place to host criminal enterprise...from murder for hire, to narcotics, to child rape, etc...if it was fucked up you could find it there...and this guy didn't just host a site..he made a bout 18 million dollars doing it that they could track. Sooooooo if you design a place where people can solicit all manner of illegal activity up to and including murder...then you get whats coming to you when they slam the door. Do stupid tricks win stupid prizes.

Not withstanding, I think it still has huge ramifications for other website hosts in terms of what goes on, Facebook included.

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100% emotive 0% thought process from you as ever, mine is hardly the popular opinion. THINK!

Great. I thought you had your wits about you for the last couple of months, but looks like Mr. Hyde is back. Well, off to the dunce corner with you. I'll give you all the attention you deserve.

[Mr I]

Silk Road drug baron sentenced to - Business Insider

The judges summing up is actually quite telling of her reasoning for the sentence. Seems to be about the creators clear intention.

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I read through that article. There was nothing there. Was he guilty? Sure... he should have got 10-ish years in prision, not life without parole. There were allegations of hits being ordered but no evidence whatsoever and charges were not even brought.

What a joke! And James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, lies under oath to Congress regarding the NSA phone metadata collection program and he is STILL in his job. Why isn't he being prosecuted for perjury? How about the heads of hte Wall Street banks and of AIG that caused the meltdown a few years ago? Oh no, let's not touch those guys, because THEY can contribute to our re-election campaigns. So, let's have Ulbricht drawn and quartered so that we can all claim how seriously we take law-and-order as a government.

[Mr I]

Conspiracy theorist lol

[TKD]

100% emotive 0% thought process from you as ever, mine is hardly the popular opinion. THINK!

Ha, saying Srum has no thought process. This coming from the guy in one of the biggest soccer countries and didn't understand why the US is involved with FIFA, but chose to critique it.

[Bouncer]

Brief summary, why is the fbi involved in the fifa thing?

[funniirishman]

Can't really disagree with you on this after perusing a few articles about it...at least the life in prison part. But hey if you roll the dice you get what you get...I am not going to lament because a dude that built a billion dollar criminal enterprise that trafficked in all manner of illegal activity got an extremely high sentence...it may be preventative for the next douche nozzle that wants to try and build one. That's what the appeal process if for. Although federal judges do have an incredible amount of power when you really take a look at it.

And you and I are on the same page regarding the NSA, metadata collection, and being left the fuck alone by the government I think. Was glad to see Rand's little stunt played out--for awhile anyway.

I read through that article. There was nothing there. Was he guilty? Sure... he should have got 10-ish years in prision, not life without parole. There were allegations of hits being ordered but no evidence whatsoever and charges were not even brought.

What a joke! And James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, lies under oath to Congress regarding the NSA phone metadata collection program and he is STILL in his job. Why isn't he being prosecuted for perjury? How about the heads of hte Wall Street banks and of AIG that caused the meltdown a few years ago? Oh no, let's not touch those guys, because THEY can contribute to our re-election campaigns. So, let's have Ulbricht drawn and quartered so that we can all claim how seriously we take law-and-order as a government.

[Mr I]

Ha, saying Srum has no thought process. This coming from the guy in one of the biggest soccer countries and didn't understand why the US is involved with FIFA, but chose to critique it.

He didn't

And I still don't understand why the FBI is handling it. It's very odd. I agree with Vladimir Putin on that.

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Brief summary, why is the fbi involved in the fifa thing?

Bribery, money laundering, fraud, pay for play... basically a whole bunch of things that the FIFA officials are alleged to have done. Why FBI is involved - because of various things. TV contracts in the Americas were supposedly influenced, as were sponsorship deals involving American companies. Also, if money laundering involved US banks or banks that operate in the US, then the FBI has jurisdiction to be involved based on US tax and white collar crime laws. Apparently, one of the American guys in FIFA wore a wire to FIFA meetings... can't wait to see wha they have come up with. This has been ongoing for a few years, so hopefully they have enough to nail these bastards to the wall.