20 Hurt 10 Dead Oregon School Shooting

[Bouncer]

The man accused of killing nine people at a community college in Oregon left behind a manifesto detailing his grievances, US media report.

Chris Harper Mercer opened fire on Thursday inside a classroom at Umpqua Community College and then killed himself when police arrived.

A police source told the Associated Press that Mercer complained in the document about not having a girlfriend.

He also wrote that everyone else was "crazy" and that he was the sane one.

Mercer is also said to have written that other mass killers "were denied everything they deserved and wanted" before going on to say he did not believe anything could "make me realise I had so much going for me", People magazine reported, quoting a source close to the investigation.

Meanwhile President Barack Obama announced on Monday that he would travel to Roseburg, Oregon, on Friday to visit survivors and relatives of the victims.

Oregon community college gunman 'left behind manifesto' - BBC News

[Turbo3000]

Guns and violence are glorified in music, movies and video games, but yeah, legally owning guns is a serious problem.

[Bouncer]

Guns and violence are glorified in music, movies and video games, but yeah, legally owning guns is a serious problem.

Sometimes you make a good argument bro, when you do I read it carefully and I'm willing to understand and possibly agree with your point.

This post however is not one of them.

Rape and terrorism are also in movies and music. Do you suggest actually being a rapist or terrorist isn't a problem? Your point is ridiculous.

[Chadd77]

Maybe a psychiatric evaluation by a group of physiologist to avoid bias? The group would be like a jury with different views and opinions that have to come to some consensus. That's my bright idea.

So every person that wants to buy a gun has to go in front of a jury??

[Turbo3000]

Sometimes you make a good argument bro, when you do I read it carefully and I'm willing to understand and possibly agree with your point.

This post however is not one of them.

Rape and terrorism are also in movies and music. Do you suggest actually being a rapist or terrorist isn't a problem? Your point is ridiculous.

I've never seen rape glorified.

Violence is glorified everyday and then it happens and we sit back and start talking about guns and mental health. These murderers are given celebrity status. One of the main problems is the media.

Above you mentioned a doctor panel discussing mental health and hopefully eliminating bias, yet the other day you are making fun of a group of physicians trying to call attention to violence in video games. Most professional groups are self serving.

[chuckz28]

Of the guy was truly a non criminal with no signs of mental health issue then there is nothing that could ever be done and no law that could have prevented him from going postal. Any person can snap but most people on the planet recognize the consequence of that . I suspect there were some people close to him were worried he would do something and they didn't say anything. People really need to take threats seriously especially on social media and amongst friends and family. The authorities need to do better at investigating this as well.

As for mental health in general the attitude of mental treatment in the country needs to change. Many people suffer from problems yet it is always looked down on for seeking treatment. "Send him to the loony bin" has a negative stigma. Perhaps people should be more accepting of treatment instead of trying to get others from getting treatment. The whole mental health system is neglected and needs an overhaul. As it sits now a lot of people get medication but avoid talking to professionals when it should be the other way around imo.

[Mr I]

Again, explain the specific laws we should be implementing. And how do you enforce these laws on the criminals?? You think they will turn their guns in and won't be able to have access to them on the black market??

Yeah basically you increase the sentencing for illegal possession while at the same time having an amnesty fir hand in

[Turbo3000]

Yeah basically you increase the sentencing for illegal possession while at the same time having an amnesty fir hand in

Increase the sentencing? I see that working for sure. The justice and prison system is a joke. Guys selling cocaine are in jail longer than child molesters. Our prisons are revolving doors and the prison system is getting rich off the taxpayer. It is a joke.

[StanG]

Increase the sentencing? I see that working for sure. The justice and prison system is a joke. Guys selling cocaine are in jail longer than child molesters. Our prisons are revolving doors and the prison system is getting rich off the taxpayer. It is a joke.

This is spot on. The privatization of the prison system has made incarcerating people a business and a moneymaking proposition. There is a county near me where the #1 source of revenue in the county isnt wal mart or costco or restaurant chains, it the prison. Now you tell me what happens in a situation where the prison becomes your #1 source of revenue. Corruption to follow asap, and thats what has happened there. Its a freaking disgrace.

As far as the guns topic, making guns more difficult to get legally will simply mean that the criminals will be well armed with any weapon they wish and the law abiding citizens will not be able to get the guns they would/may need to protect themselves from criminals. Gun control doesnt work, we should know this by now.

[Bouncer]

So every person that wants to buy a gun has to go in front of a jury??

Something like a jury to avoid bias. If you just have a single physiatrist that person may or may not be against guns.

[Bouncer]

Good point Stan. Never thought of it that way. Pretty scary when #1 source of revenue is prison.

Pretty safe to say they do not want crime to stop..

[Scrumhalf]

Private prisons are one of the most cynical and perverse developments. The two big private prison companies actively lobby and find efforts to pass strict sentencing laws, especially in the WOD, and to defeat efforts to decriminalize drug use. It is truly grotesque.

[Turbo3000]

All the above laws can't stop a person with intent to kill.

[Bouncer]

All the above laws can't stop a person with intent to kill.

whoever put white font on that image should be shot in the fucken head! :cheese:

[Turbo3000]

whoever put white font on that image should be shot in the fucken head! :cheese:

With a gun?