Very Scary Situation - Vertebral Artery Dissection

[Turbo3000]

No I spoke of hoemocrit levels, then spoke in layman terms. It's the red blood cell count etc that determines clotting.

WRONG. TRY AGAIN.

[Turbo3000]

Four years of pharmacy school has taught me that most of this tread is BS.

[Bouncer]

Man oh man not sure how this thread got derailed so quickly.

Scrum, I appreciate your advise and really hope you continue to add your thoughts and suggestions.

Mr. I, I also appreciate your advise but please allow others to comment without the name calling. Not sure of Scrum's professional occupation but I don't believe any of us are neurosurgeons and also a pharmacist or someone that has a degree in studying drugs. I'm interested in hearing what anyone has to say about my situation. Doesn't mean I'm going to follow that advice.

The doctor said I was extremely lucky and that a lot of people die in these situations. I have always felt blessed but staring death in the face makes me appreciate life even more. Some of the questions I'm asking I hope that we can learn something from them and not to drive us away from each other. Let's start working on being a board that has each others back instead of stabbing each other in the back. We used to be a tight board and I would like to see us return to being like that once again.

Amen

[Bouncer]

Turbo, in your opinion, in terms of blood "thickening" do you think Chadds dose and length of cycle had any effect one way or another? Do you think it matters whether he came off or not. Strictly speaking about the whole blood thickening aspect. Just interested.

Seems to me that the pharmaceutical thinner will work regardless of whether or not he's on test.

[Turbo3000]

Turbo, in your opinion, in terms of blood "thickening" do you think Chadds dose and length of cycle had any effect one way or another? Do you think it matters whether he came off or not. Strictly speaking about the whole blood thickening aspect. Just interested.

Seems to me that the pharmaceutical thinner will work regardless of whether or not he's on test.

I agree. But I'm not giving medical advice. The new anticoagulants are great. A TrT dose of test will not throw them off.

[redback]

Glad youre ok mate. Please keep us informed. Imo you should come off everything. With heart disease in my family the blood thickening effect of gear is always something I have been wary about. You see so may guys affected by it. It doesn't always take big doses either. Stay safe.

[chuckz28]

Best case scenario is tell the doc what you're on and let he/she decide what you should do. Speculation and opinions from us might just get you killed. Doing what you don't want to could just keep you alive through this.

[Bouncer]

He's on a blood thinner med. I don't see what telling the doc he's on low dose AAS will do other than cause potential insurance issues. The doc will obviously say "you should come off" regardless if it's the right thing or not.

There is no doc on the planet that's going to recommend that he stay on. So what's the point in even asking ya know? We already know what the doc will say.

He's already done the important part. Got the scans and got on the thinner meds.

[chuckz28]

Well he can talk to the doc and ask if it is OK to disclose anything off the record. A lot of doctors will talk off the record. Tell the doc his concerns and go from there. They will say to come off and may want to retest blood and adjust thinner script. Coming off with no pct used to be done back in the Arnold days so it can still be done.

[rado]

Mr I needs to chill out and let it be...this is about chad, not a wanker.

[Mr I]

Mr I needs to chill out and let it be...this is about chad, not a wanker.

Cool, actually you're right, when I think I know something, I hate being derailed.

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[Mr I]

I agree. But I'm not giving medical advice. The new anticoagulants are great. A TrT dose of test will not throw them off.

But he's gonna have TRT in his system for sometime even if he comes off now, plus he's thinking of now doing PCT. The medics take a snapshot of his blood now. So they prescribe anti coagulant based on as things are, but then as TrT comes out his system his blood gets thinner again which is potentially dangerous. That's my point.

We all know TrT can cause some increases iinhemocrit levels, which apparently your saying has no baring on viscosity/ clotting so I'd be glad to hear your explanation.

You see if your blood is too thin you bleed more easily and it doesn't clot enough, also it can have an effect on pressure which reduces ability to reach certain places.


It's about being in the right range you see

[Bouncer]

The "you see" at the end was a nice touch. I lold. :D

[Mr I]

Man oh man not sure how this thread got derailed so quickly.

Scrum, I appreciate your advise and really hope you continue to add your thoughts and suggestions.

Mr. I, I also appreciate your advise but please allow others to comment without the name calling. Not sure of Scrum's professional occupation but I don't believe any of us are neurosurgeons and also a pharmacist or someone that has a degree in studying drugs. I'm interested in hearing what anyone has to say about my situation. Doesn't mean I'm going to follow that advice.

The doctor said I was extremely lucky and that a lot of people die in these situations. I have always felt blessed but staring death in the face makes me appreciate life even more. Some of the questions I'm asking I hope that we can learn something from them and not to drive us away from each other. Let's start working on being a board that has each others back instead of stabbing each other in the back. We used to be a tight board and I would like to see us return to being like that once again.

Fair enough

Yeah it was about post 31 someone comes in and takes it off topic and makes it personal.

[Mr I]

Four years of pharmacy school has taught me that most of this tread is BS.

Explain exactly why

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