NFL Season 2017 - 2018

[Keiser]

So what's the problem with protesting before or after the national anthem? But stand during to honor those that have served, currently serving, and those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice?

Those who served, are serving and who paid the ultimate price did so for Freedom. The freedom to kneel during the national anthem to protest senseless police killings and racial inequality.

[lipripper]

funny...jews were slaves...catholics were slaves..Irish were slaves..Iranians were slaves..Chinese were slaves...it goes on and on and on since the beginning of time.. But the people of America changes the way of the "old" and improves for all ...but yet now the flag of our country is racist.. fucking joke...why did MLK march with the American flag then?

[Chadd77]

[Bouncer]

Right... so their great great great great great great grandmother was a slave. Makes perfect sense.

[Chadd77]

Right... so their great great great great great great grandmother was a slave. Makes perfect sense.

[Bouncer]

And could you imagine the uproar if a white player gave the white power salute on or off the field?? He would be labeled a racist and his career would most likely be over. But it's ok for a black guy to give the black power salute?? Too funny! lol

but bro it's different because black people were slaves...

[Chadd77]

Sorry back to football. Glad the seahawks lost this past weekend too!

[Chadd77]

And could you imagine the uproar if a white player gave the white power salute on or off the field?? He would be labeled a racist and his career would most likely be over. But it's ok for a black guy to give the black power salute?? Too funny! lol

[Chadd77]

So what's the problem with protesting before or after the national anthem? But stand during to honor those that have served, currently serving, and those that have paid the ultimate sacrifice?

[Bouncer]

I don't think anyone is lumping all into one group. When one says "white people," I think it is understood that it is not ALL white people.

That being said, I think the problem is more widespread than just the hardcore Trump base.

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yea but if i said "black people are good at basketball". i think some people would say that's a racist stereotype even though it's said in a complimentary manner. i just think there is a double standard sometimes that i'd rather avoid.

and i didn't say his "hardcore base". i said his supporters in general. most of them probably agree with him.

but give some of us "white people" some credit. there is a huge number of whites in this country that absolutely do not agree with him on this issue.

[Scrumhalf]

I don't think anyone is lumping all into one group. When one says "white people," I think it is understood that it is not ALL white people.

That being said, I think the problem is more widespread than just the hardcore Trump base.

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[Bouncer]

I'm surprised to see that people think those kneeling during the anthem are protesting the flag. They are protesting racial inequality, not the flag and honestly not even Trump. Trump involved himself in this by calling Kaepernick a 'son of a bitch' during a rally.

When black people riot in the streets white people say, "They should protest peacefully". So black people then peacefully take a knee during the national anthem and then white people say, "No, Not like that".

There is a 97 year old WWII veteran taking a knee. He said he fought for their right to do this. This is America. This is the rational way to look at this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...o-goes-n804576

Read this article about how it was a conversation with a Green Beret that got Kaep to start kneeling instead of sitting, because they agreed that kneeling was more respectful.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/o...-protests.html

America just has a problem with people of color demanding to be heard. Think Ali during Vietnam annd Smith and Carlos. It always has.

I agree with both of your points but I have an issue with 1 thing.

You guys say things like "white people" and "America has a problem with people of color".

I don't think that's fair. Just become some white people agree with trump on this issue does not mean all white people or the entire country agrees. To me it's almost racist to phrase it like you guys are phrasing it.

Don't lump us all into 1 group. I do not agree with trump or the people that agree with him. I know plenty of white people who also strongly disagree with trump on this. So please don't lump us all into 1 group.

I'd rather you say "his base" or "his supporters" instead of "white people".

[Scrumhalf]

Listen to Pop laying down some truth. Not a big Spurs fan but love Pop!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbPlkhJFfk4&t

[Bouncer]

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[Scrumhalf]

Read this article about how it was a conversation with a Green Beret that got Kaep to start kneeling instead of sitting, because they agreed that kneeling was more respectful.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/o...-protests.html

America just has a problem with people of color demanding to be heard. Think Ali during Vietnam annd Smith and Carlos. It always has.