Originally posted by lipripper
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But back to the original point with the whole kneeling thing. I actually agree with you. Bunch of fake ass hypocritical sheep. -
Yes some take it too far....some also deny reality when it doesn't for their agenda...as I said...just be real. If someone is so blind not to see the harm it's doing ....your not being real.you can't change history..but your supposed to be smart enough to learn from it..let's be honest...Leave a comment:
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I don't have a problem with being proud of your country and where you come from. But it can go too far. Sometimes people can be so "patriotic" they refuse to acknowledge anything negative about the place they are so proud of. It can act as a set of blinders for some people and lead to some pretty bad things..
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Ripper arguing with scrum...
Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious... Def scrum. :D
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I guess you and I see things quite differently at a pretty fundamental level.
You see, I am not proud or not proud to be an American. To me, being proud to be an American doesn't make any sense. That's like saying I am proud to be human. It's who I happen to be. I derive no pride or lack of pride from it.
It's what America does that matters to me.
I am proud of some things that America does or stands for, just as I am not proud of some things America does or stands for. My hope is that over time, there will be fewer and fewer things that I am not proud of that America does or stands for.Leave a comment:
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Funny how if someone disagrees with a view point they are considered expressing their freedoms., But if someone disagrees with that view...they are considered wrong....although it's what our country was founded on. If something is wrong with being proud to be an American and showing a little pride in your country then in my freedom of speech...who ever does that is a fucked up non American. It's not about government being right it's about the people of the country
The shit they do is devisive. It's not helping shit..it promotes racisim. It don't help to fix it. But...they aren't being racist right? Fucking wrong...be real for onceLeave a comment:
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I'll keep my post to football....
Detroit Lions! This is finally our year! We got new uniforms, that's what has been holding us back all these years!Leave a comment:
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Chadd, I am curious as to why you think I am anti-American. Isn't a free expression of one's opinions, especially those that highlight uncomfortable realities of our society, one of the most American things to do?
Just to add, I am an American and I love my country. But my love for my country means that I appreciate all the good that it does in the world, its generosity, its acceptance of the world's disadvantaged, its contribution to science and culture in the world, and so on.
But at the same time, my love for my country means that I am always looking for ways by which it can be better. And sadly, my country falls short of being the ideal it could be in several ways, and I will ALWAYS strive to fix these problems. You can't fix them if you don't acknowledge them though.
I'll also add that as Bouncer suggests, what our government does in our name is absolutely criminal. It betrays all the ideals that our country stands for. Since the end of WWII, we have been a force for strife and discord around the world as much or more than a force for good. And it doesn't have to be that way.Leave a comment:
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He's not anti America. He loves America. He talks all the time about how much he loves the American West. He even has an avatar showing his love for where he lives. He loves his country, he doesn't necessarily love his government. Very big difference bro. I may not agree with all of his views but it's pretty clear to me that he is not anti American.Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
It's actually a very strong American trait. The origins of this country as we know it was built by people who loved their country but did not like their government. Today we call them patriots.Leave a comment:
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Should have known the extremist liberal would chime in with his anti-American views. lolLeave a comment:
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I'm kinda glad the pats got a loss, slice of humble pie.
But excited for them to try and win again.Leave a comment:
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Thing is scrum, they don't really believe in what they are doing, not seriously. Why don't they make a bigger statement? Why don't they refuse to play? Why don't they choose to leave this horrible country?Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
In no other country could these guys make the money they are making. In no other country would these guys with the IQ of a parakeet be given such opportunity.
If they were serious and they wanted to send a real message they would make a real statement. Kneeling means nothing, anyone can do that. Fact is, they will gladly accept a multi million dollar salary from the evil NFL in this evil nation.
Most of them are sheep. They are simply following other players because its "the thing to do" and there is peer pressure from the other players. Please don't act like these guys are heroes dedicated to the cause. You act like they are protesters in the ukrain or egypt putting their life on the line. lol. These guys are all about image. Nothing more.Leave a comment:
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A flag, an anthem, they have no intrinsic value. They are just symbols of a country and are no better or no worse than the country they represent. The notion of giving them some special respect, the kind of chauvinistic devotion that we seem to accord them, is bizarre to me.
Who loves his country more? A person who say it is perfect and anyone who doesn't agree should be railroaded, or the person who loves his country so much that he focuses on its warts, the things his country needs to fix to make it an even more perfect union?Leave a comment:
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