NFL Season 2017 - 2018

[lipripper]

Regardless. His point has been lost. No impact aside from hurting the NFL. It's done absolutely nothing for black people.

And it wont until they start taking care of it them selves.. that's the thing..they wanna blame everyone, but they don't accept responsibility for their actions. police yourself first..get your shit together..then you have a bases for an argument. How many of them multi million dollar sports players are really putting their money where there mouth is to help where its needed.(some do but its a very small percentage)..not many. Instead they choose to life like they are still ghetto and flaunt what they have.. stand together to creat controversy, be more divisive and then blame everyone else..when it don't work...LOL

[Bouncer]

No bro, most people don't like how he choses to get his message out there.. He picked the wrong thing to use as a symbol.:agreed:

Regardless. His point has been lost. No impact aside from hurting the NFL. It's done absolutely nothing for black people.

[lipripper]

thing is, the message isn't really having any sort of impact in terms of changing anything. it's hitting the NFL hardest with ratings drops and something like 75% of NFL watchers now believe its about disrespecting the flag. in other words his message has been completely lost on most people.

No bro, most people don't like how he choses to get his message out there.. He picked the wrong thing to use as a symbol.:agreed:

[Bouncer]

At the moment, I'm pretty impressed with the courage of his conviction. He has donated millions to the causes he has stood for, and has generally conducted himself with eloquence and dignity. Tommy Smith and John Carlos were reviled in their time, their lives and careers destroyed. I suspect history will treat Kaepernick far more honorably than the present has.

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thing is, the message isn't really having any sort of impact in terms of changing anything. it's hitting the NFL hardest with ratings drops and something like 75% of NFL watchers now believe its about disrespecting the flag. in other words his message has been completely lost on most people.

[Scrumhalf]

yea we'll see how strong his convictions are if he's in debt and has the chance at a multi million dollar contract with the clause that he stands.

At the moment, I'm pretty impressed with the courage of his conviction. He has donated millions to the causes he has stood for, and has generally conducted himself with eloquence and dignity. Tommy Smith and John Carlos were reviled in their time, their lives and careers destroyed. I suspect history will treat Kaepernick far more honorably than the present has.

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[Bouncer]

I think he came out and denied this report.

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yea we'll see how strong his convictions are if he's in debt and has the chance at a multi million dollar contract with the clause that he stands.

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Colin Kaepernick Says He Will Stand for National Anthem If He Plays in NFL Again | Bleacher Report

I think he came out and denied this report.

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[Bouncer]

Colin Kaepernick Says He Will Stand for National Anthem If He Plays in NFL Again | Bleacher Report

[rado]

oh boy

Papa John's blames NFL, anthem protests for falling pizza sales - TheIndyChannel.com Indianapolis, IN

Lol

The founder is a pos

[Bouncer]

oh boy

Papa John's blames NFL, anthem protests for falling pizza sales - TheIndyChannel.com Indianapolis, IN

[Chadd77]

Absolutely pro-gun. I hunt and fish and I conceal carry (yes in California). Mentioned to Bouncer in the other thread I stopped at the Costco in Sacramento on my way to Lake Tahoe. Went shooting that weekend across the border Nevada getting ready for mule deer season.

Most of my friends who are also democrat are pro-gun. Don't believe all the fear mongering and labeling of "liberals" in the right wing media and community. There are extremes on both sides. Me and most people I know in Cali are moderate democrats. Close to center but lean left. :thumup:

Here I thought you were an extremist liberal! :D Glad I was wrong!!

[Keiser]

But with your statement above... Then your pro guns since it's part of the constitution of United States? Didn't realize that you were but good to know!

Absolutely pro-gun. I hunt and fish and I conceal carry (yes in California). Mentioned to Bouncer in the other thread I stopped at the Costco in Sacramento on my way to Lake Tahoe. Went shooting that weekend across the border Nevada getting ready for mule deer season.

Most of my friends who are also democrat are pro-gun. Don't believe all the fear mongering and labeling of "liberals" in the right wing media and community. There are extremes on both sides. Me and most people I know in Cali are moderate democrats. Close to center but lean left. :thumup:

[Bouncer]

Russian-linked Twitter accounts stoked NFL anthem debate

https://www.cnet.com/news/russian-li...anthem-debate/

[Bouncer]

It was great. The island is very Americanized, which isn't something we care about, but we were at the beach the majority of the time. We will be back next year. Plus the Ritz treated us like royalty.

The whole point of the Ritz is to be treated like royalty. lol.

Did you go to the Jack Nicklaus golf course restaurant? I remember having a really fucken good sandwich there.

[Bouncer]

Speaker Ryan put it surprisingly well. I just heard him say it on the news. I will post the quote as soon as I can find it online. He put it into words better than I am going to be able to do but the basic idea was that everyone has a right to protest, but the flag itself means different things to people depending on your background. Thats where the disconnect and misunderstanding comes from.

He wasn't saying anyone was wrong or right. Just that the way people view the flag and what it stands for means very different things for different people.

It's easy to understand the perspective of a mother who has buried her son who lost his life in the military. That flag was draped across his casket, that flag was folded and given to her. That flag has an incredibly powerful meaning to her. So when she sees a millionaire football player who literally plays a game for a living make these kinds of protests she does not see that football players point, she does not see his perspective, she only sees a form of disrespect towards her son.

Again, I'm not saying 1 side is right or wrong. Just that it's understandable that people are not going to see eye to eye on this issue because of the differences in life experiences and understanding or what that flag represents to them.