Fuck you california..

[Bouncer]

Rip I would like to agree with you in our war against scrum the anti white but I can't understand a word you just said. Lol

[Scrumhalf]

The person who loves his country the most is the one who is constantly aware of its faults and limitations and works tirelessly to fix them. Not the one who ignores his country's failings and explains them away or worse, revises history to glorify them.

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[lipripper]

The person who loves his country the most is the one who is constantly aware of its faults and limitations and works tirelessly to fix them. Not the one who ignores his country's failings and explains them away or worse, revises history to glorify them.

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So what exactly have you done to fix anything....lol. Bitch about America on bouncers site...lmao

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[Bouncer]

The person who loves his country the most is the one who is constantly aware of its faults and limitations and works tirelessly to fix them. Not the one who ignores his country's failings and explains them away or worse, revises history to glorify them.

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Yea but a person who constantly points out faults and never gives any praise when due can't be the definition of someone who loves his country either.

[lipripper]

Rip I would like to agree with you in our war against scrum the anti white but I can't understand a word you just said. Lol

I'm not at war against scrum just tired of him finding fault in America...but loving to take advantage of it's freedoms and liberties, that are provided by it's founders it's military and those who sacrificed to make it this way. He comes off as an ungratefull person to anyone who believes in why it was and how it was founded. Again if it's so bad why stay,? Your not forced to...go where history meets your needs so you can be happy.

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[AvidFisherman]

wow...but people not standing for the flag are outstanding citizens...you attitude is part of the problem. if its so fucked up here..why do you stay? why not leave? go where is better? serious question.

I think people being forced to stand for the flag and do other rituals is idolatry. Worship the flag, worship nationalism.

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[lipripper]

I think people being forced to stand for the flag and do other rituals is idolatry. Worship the flag, worship nationalism.

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It's respect...not worship...your mixing with religious faith. Nationalism...nothing more then team spirit...don't make it out to being like Nazis...and how they were...that's rediculcus. Yet your leaning towards it with how you made that statement..

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[lipripper]

I think people being forced to stand for the flag and do other rituals is idolatry. Worship the flag, worship nationalism.

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Please show me where people are Forced to stand for the flag...never...they are asked to please stand and show respect.


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[Bouncer]

I think people being forced to stand for the flag and do other rituals is idolatry. Worship the flag, worship nationalism.

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i think Americans in general tend to take things for granted. i think if all of us were forced to spend some time in some 3rd world shit hole we may be reminded just how good we have it.

no country is perfect, not by a long shot, but to disregard all the great things about this country and constantly point out it's flaws is a cancer that is growing rapidly in this nation.

nobody is asking you to worship anything but a little respect for a nation that has given you so much might be nice..

[Scrumhalf]

So what exactly have you done to fix anything....lol. Bitch about America on bouncers site...lmao

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Lifetime member of the Sierra Club. Audubon volunteer every year, devoting hundreds of hours in bird observation/counts. Trail restoration volunteer in Forest Park and in US NF land. Contributing member of the National Park Foundation and the Cornell Lab of Ornithology.
STEM mentor and guide for underprivileged youth in my city.

And I will add that my contributions to the US computer industry as an original inventor and scientist are significant enough to earn my keep.

I may never have picked up a gun but I am a soldier for the America that I love and that it should strive to be, every day.

I'm not going to get run out of my country by anyone.



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[Bouncer]

I got no doubt about scrums contributions. He is the definition of the American dream.

My issue is that he always seems to be complaining about the country, never any praise. It comes across very negative to me. I don't understand why it always has to be negative.

[Scrumhalf]

I got no doubt about scrums contributions. He is the definition of the American dream.

My issue is that he always seems to be complaining about the country, never any praise it seems.

That is simply not true. I talk all the time positively about American science, engineering and our love for the land, especially out West where I have spent most of my life, our awesome music and literature, our generosity as a people, etc.

When you are a great athlete and you want to become an elite athlete, what do you focus on in the off-season? The 9 things you do well, or the 1 thing you don't? That's America. We are a great country that is 90% good. I want it to be an elite country that is 99% good. So, I focus on the 10% that is not good in the country. You have to look in the mirror every day and talk about the warts you see. Not ignore them.

[Bouncer]

That is simply not true. I talk all the time positively about American science, engineering and our love for the land, especially out West where I have spent most of my life, our awesome music and literature, our generosity as a people, etc.

When you are a great athlete and you want to become an elite athlete, what do you focus on in the off-season? The 9 things you do well, or the 1 thing you don't? That's America. We are a great country that is 90% good. I want it to be an elite country that is 99% good. So, I focus on the 10% that is not good in the country. You have to look in the mirror every day and talk about the warts you see. Not ignore them.

well i don't really have an argument for that. lol.

[AvidFisherman]

Please show me where people are Forced to stand for the flag...never...they are asked to please stand and show respect.


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Listen to Vince McMahon talk about the XFL where the players are required to stand during the national anthem. Trump and Fox News pundents talking negativley about the NFL players kneeling for the national anthem.

Children in schools being forced to stand and pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America. "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on earth below. You shall not be down to them or worship them" Exodus 20: 4-5.

Nationalistic expressions make us serve two (2) masters. "No one can serve two masters" Matthew 6:24. Nationalism is defined as loyalty and devotion to a nation. It is placing one nation above all others. Nationalism believes God supports the nation, i.e. the British saying, "God and Country!"

"We must obey God rather than human beings," Acts 5:29.

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[lipripper]

Listen to Vince McMahon talk about the XFL where the players are required to stand during the national anthem. Trump and Fox News pundents talking negativley about the NFL players kneeling for the national anthem.

Children in schools being forced to stand and pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America. "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on earth below. You shall not be down to them or worship them" Exodus 20: 4-5.

Nationalistic expressions make us serve two (2) masters. "No one can serve two masters" Matthew 6:24. Nationalism is defined as loyalty and devotion to a nation. It is placing one nation above all others. Nationalism believes God supports the nation, i.e. the British saying, "God and Country!"

"We must obey God rather than human beings," Acts 5:29.

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So your wrong to show respect in your eyes? Got it! Ok then...lolo

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