Conservative values equate to being afraid

[Keiser]

SO to say I have anxiety is about as funny as the picture you posted of yourself. lol

You called me out on a) not owning/shooting guns and b) not working out. I proved you wrong on both with photos. I delivered. You're a clown.

Chadd, I'm 6'2, 220 lbs with low body fat and have never taken gear in my life. You're 5'9, not even 200 lbs and this is what you look like "off-cycle". I look better than this right now as we speak sitting at my fucking computer desk.

Chad77 "Off-Cycle":

[Keiser]

Anxiety? Funny you even mention that. My wife questioned me yesterday because I don't stress over large problems that life can throw at you. I told her it's not that I don't care about it but I don't stress over situations that I cannot control. SO to say I have anxiety is about as funny as the picture you posted of yourself. lol

Of course you don't have Anxiety. You take fucking Phenibut every single day. You're numb. Your wife nailed it.

Can you elaborate on what's so funny about the picture that I posted? I know I look 1000 times better than you ever would had you never taken any hormones. You're a little guy. Not even 6 foot tall.

Jesus Christ, I'd be a FUCKING MONSTER if I took this much shit:

I just started the 5th week of my 2nd cycle. Right now it consists of test/dbol. Here is my cycle:

Week 1-10 600mg/week cyp
Week 1-5 35mg/ed dbol
Week 11-15 200mg/eod prop
Week 9-16 150mg/eod tren
Week 13-16 35mg/ed halo
Week 1-18 1mg/Mon,Wed,Fri Letrozole
week 16.5-18.5 30mg/ed nolva

[Bouncer]

We need to stop the whataboutism. I don't care what misses the dems or the repubs before them had. That's done, for better or worse. What about now.

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That's politics. Wake up.

As I said. Me and you could possibly find a balance as individuals if given the task.

But Democrats and republiicans in Washington... Never. Both garbage. But you can only see things from 1 perspective. You don't have the ability to pull yourself away from your party. You can only point your finger in 1 direction.

[Scrumhalf]

and when dems controlled shit were they willing to meet somewhere in the middle? i seem to remember something called the "Clinton assault weapons" ban. never mind the fact that hand guns are what kills 99% of shooting victims not "assault weapons". common sense though right? lol

We need to stop the whataboutism. I don't care what misses the dems or the repubs before them had. That's done, for better or worse. What about now.

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[Bouncer]

I'm not missing the point. All the republicans need to do is to hold hearings and show that THEY are the reasonable ones and the Dem leadership is the one out to lunch. But they won't because they don't want to meet somewhere in the middle.

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and when dems controlled shit were they willing to meet somewhere in the middle? i seem to remember something called the "Clinton assault weapons" ban. never mind the fact that hand guns are what kills 99% of shooting victims not "assault weapons". common sense though right? lol

[Scrumhalf]

missed the point. after every tragedy regardless of who's in office or who controls the senate the dems immediately go to extremes aka bans. thus gun owners feel the need to get defensive. when people are defensive they aren't likely to sit and talk common sense with people who say publicly that they would ban all firearms. no gun owner will ever trust feinstein or pelosi. if you want any chance of common sense talks you must stop embracing people like this.

I'm not missing the point. All the republicans need to do is to hold hearings and show that THEY are the reasonable ones and the Dem leadership is the one out to lunch. But they won't because they don't want to meet somewhere in the middle.

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[Bouncer]

I'll remind you that Republicans control the wh, Senate and House and the only reason no sane conversation is happening is because oconnell and Ryan have been told by their NRA paymasters not to do anything.

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missed the point. after every tragedy regardless of who's in office or who controls the senate the dems immediately go to extremes aka bans. thus gun owners feel the need to get defensive. when people are defensive they aren't likely to sit and talk common sense with people who say publicly that they would ban all firearms. no gun owner will ever trust feinstein or pelosi. if you want any chance of common sense talks you must stop embracing people like this.

[Scrumhalf]

I'll remind you that Republicans control the wh, Senate and House and the only reason no sane conversation is happening is because oconnell and Ryan have been told by their NRA paymasters not to do anything.

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[Bouncer]

i'm all for common sense and maybe gun owners in general would be less defensive if after every tragedy we actually saw common sense instead of shit like the new democratic bill that seeks to ban every single modern firearm. you guys need to shut people like feinstein up because she and others like her are why we get so defensive. they don't ask for common sense and they don't speak common sense. they sensationalize, exaggerate, and fabricate.

if i were a republican and you a dem and we were put in charge of coming up with common sense laws i believe we could come to a happy medium. but politicians dont work like that on either side. they don't give a shit. they want to further their career at all costs. so both sides immediately jump to extremes and nothing happens. the 2 party system while good in theory has become a toxic clusterfuck of shit. i'm pointing my finger at both sides here.

[Scrumhalf]

No question the agencies dropped the ball and they need to do better. Agreed 100% there.

But we should also do common sense things to make it harder for the wrong guys to get guns.

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[Bouncer]

It won't solve everything of course, but if it prevents 50% of potential situations or even 25%, it is worth it.

It is one of several things we can do, if we only had the political courage to do so.

I personally think agencies communicating with each other and actually doing their job would be more effective. In the case of this kid the FBI couldn't be bothered to call the Miami field office.

In the case of the Texas shooter the Air Force couldn't be bothered to add a guy that cracked a baby skull to the list.

What we need scrum is enforcement of laws already on the books!

I'm with you here, I'm not 100% against any kind of change whatsoever but we need these fuckers to do their damn job.

[Scrumhalf]

It won't solve everything of course, but if it prevents 50% of potential situations or even 25%, it is worth it.

It is one of several things we can do, if we only had the political courage to do so.

[chuckz28]

Even putting the polling argument aside, Universal background checks wouldn't have stopped Parkland. Nothing solved.

[Keiser]

If you look back historically, presidential polling has been accurate, really accurate. The polls on fivethirtyeight, which is one that usually nails it had Clinton winning the popular vote by about 3.2 million votes. She won by 2.9 million votes, so pretty close.

What they missed is those 3-4 swing states which Trump won by a total of 60,000 votes across each state. If those 3-4 swing the other way it is a landslide Victory for Clinton. I think many people polled in those states were either undecided or ashamed to admit they were voting for a womanizing con-man.

I agree many polls are garbage, but if you look back historically going back decades I'd never discount presedential polls because even though they missed the electoral college in 2016 doesn't mean they aren't valid and accurate in general.

[lipripper]

Polls..yea they are a funny thing...heres an example...they do a poll on saltwater fishing here in GA...asking all kinds of questions.. Not a single fisherman I know was polled... but thousands of people in metro atl were...LMFAO.. they are very subject to misinformation.. as bouncer said..Clinton by a land slide...:D trump would never make it that far...:rofl: