Conservative values equate to being afraid

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MORE WOKE ? really:rofl::rofl::rofl: great English from an educated man... Christ scrum:noo:

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How about the age of 50? In other words take yourself out of the conversation you delirious old turd. :D

I would gladly hand over the reins to the youngsters. It's the old folks in this country that are destroying it. Look at any stupid belief system, whether it is social rights or climate change or whatever, the sooner old people die out, the better it will be for the country.

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The 16yo kids are more woke than old farts. Nobody over the age of 55 or 60 should have a fucking say in defining the future of this country. It's going to be the country of the 16yos soon and we are fucking up things for them to deal with. I'd be speaking up too if I was one of them.

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How about the age of 50? In other words take yourself out of the conversation you delirious old turd. :D

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The 16yo kids are more woke than old farts. Nobody over the age of 55 or 60 should have a fucking say in defining the future of this country. It's going to be the country of the 16yos soon and we are fucking up things for them to deal with. I'd be speaking up too if I was one of them.

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What you see as an anti-cop swing is simply a demand for better accountability and the shoddy treatment of a large relatively disenfranchised segment of our population by the police. It's like the civil rights movement of the 60s, when just asking for equal rights was seen as an affront by a segment of the population that was so used to the lopsided status quo.

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No it's not. It's mostly 16 year old kids following a trend. They know nothing about the views on which they speak. They are simply following their favorite rapper or celeb. Some of the comments from these idiots are as extreme and stupid as Breitbart idiots.

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You can't see the very clear anti cop swing because of perspective. Nothing I can say will change your view from the extreme left.

What you see as an anti-cop swing is simply a demand for better accountability and addressing the shoddy treatment of a large relatively disenfranchised segment of our population by the police. It's like the civil rights movement of the 60s, when just asking for equal rights was seen as an affront by a segment of the population that was so used to the lopsided status quo.

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You just saying horseshit doesn't mean anything. I see zero evidence that all cops are considered bad guys now. I see plenty of evidence that reasonable people from all races, socioeconomic status, etc recognize that we have a police violence and accountability problem that needs to be addressed through more training, more accountability, etc.

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You can't see the very clear anti cop swing because of perspective. Nothing I can say will change your view from the extreme left.

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Too many loopholes. It is not comprehensive or universal and the laws are a patchwork from state to state. How about mental health restrictions? And can we fund the CDC, please? Talk to your org about that.

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Yea I'm fine with strengthening the background check system.

Like any organization there are going to be things you don't love. It's the greater good that I support. Without them gun owners would have nothing but muskets as I said before.

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horse shit. California libs do everything they can to protect illegals.

horse shit again. the current social media trend is anti police. they are all lumped together as "the bad guys".

You just saying horseshit doesn't mean anything. I see zero evidence that all cops are considered bad guys now. I see plenty of evidence that reasonable people from all races, socioeconomic status, etc recognize that we have a police violence and accountability problem that needs to be addressed through more training, more accountability, etc.

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news flash. there are literally hundreds of gun laws on the books. a person can not go and buy an automatic weapon from walmart like you seem to think.

we have a national background check system in place that prevents felons and other criminals with a record from buying a firearm. do you honestly believe there is no national background check in place right now?

Too many loopholes. It is not comprehensive or universal and the laws are a patchwork from state to state. How about mental health restrictions? And can we fund the CDC, please? Talk to your org about that.

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These are strawmen.

Nobody is asking for open borders.

Nobody is anti cop, just anti bad cop and the pervasive brushing under the carpet of minorities taking the brunt of cop violence.

Solving the immigration issue is easy. The problem is that we need to leave our xenophobia and racism at the door, and politicians absolutely cannot seem to do that.

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horse shit. California libs do everything they can to protect illegals.

horse shit again. the current social media trend is anti police. they are all lumped together as "the bad guys".

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Sure.

And we have reasonable restrictions on who can and cannot drive and what kind lf training and licensing is appropriate without violating anyone's Constitutional rights. We have restrictions on what kinds of vehicles people can drive without violating the interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. We have BAC laws. We have seatbelt laws, airbag laws, TPMS laws, etc to make sure we keep things as safe as possible. And these things have made a HUGE difference in a reduction in automotive fatalities over the last few decades.

A lot of these laws came about because of scientific research in universities and places like the CDC.

But the NRA does not want to even hear of common sense restrictions on firearms. Universal background checks? Nope, NRA opposes. Preventing people with mental health issues from getting firearms? Nope, NRA opposed and got the law changed. And the most asinine of all, CDC research to figure out how to reduce gun violence? Nope, nope, nope, NRA does not want. And craven politicians who want the NRA lucre toe the line.

The idea that "libtards" want to take away all your guns is a canard, a strawman that the NRA has propped up. Their extreme intransigence is absolutely not serving their ostensible constituents, law-abiding and responsible gun owners who do want to use and enjoy their hobby safely. By refusing reasonable compromise, they are abdicating their seat at the table to figure out how to solve gun violence in this country.

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news flash. there are literally hundreds of gun laws on the books. a person can not go and buy an automatic weapon from walmart like you seem to think.

we have a national background check system in place that prevents felons and other criminals with a record from buying a firearm. do you honestly believe there is no national background check in place right now?

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i don't hate Mexicans either. they are welcome to become citizens. but we can't just have open boarders.

i don't defend shitty cops who break the law but I refuse to shit on all of them as is the current trend.

These are strawmen.

Nobody is asking for open borders.

Nobody is anti cop, just anti bad cop and the pervasive brushing under the carpet of minorities taking the brunt of cop violence.

Solving the immigration issue is easy. The problem is that we need to leave our xenophobia and racism at the door, and politicians absolutely cannot seem to do that.

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Yep..Im scared..ya'll hit that nail on the head:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Sure.

And we have reasonable restrictions on who can and cannot drive and what kind lf training and licensing is appropriate without violating anyone's Constitutional rights. We have restrictions on what kinds of vehicles people can drive without violating the interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. We have BAC laws. We have seatbelt laws, airbag laws, TPMS laws, etc to make sure we keep things as safe as possible. And these things have made a HUGE difference in a reduction in automotive fatalities over the last few decades.

A lot of these laws came about because of scientific research in universities and places like the CDC.

But the NRA does not want to even hear of common sense restrictions on firearms. Universal background checks? Nope, NRA opposes. Preventing people with mental health issues from getting firearms? Nope, NRA opposed and got the law changed. And the most asinine of all, CDC research to figure out how to reduce gun violence? Nope, nope, nope, NRA does not want. And craven politicians who want the NRA lucre toe the line.

The idea that "libtards" want to take away all your guns is a canard, a strawman that the NRA has propped up. Their extreme intransigence is absolutely not serving their ostensible constituents, law-abiding and responsible gun owners who do want to use and enjoy their hobby safely. By refusing reasonable compromise, they are abdicating their seat at the table to figure out how to solve gun violence in this country.

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