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  • #91
    Originally posted by lipripper View Post
    I have news for ya bro...that wasn't a show of strength. Just a small deterrent.
    it was the right amount of strength for now. they win if we shoot at this point. you have a grunts mind. i have a generals mind. you have to wait for the right time. let them give us a real reason to pop em. stand at post soldier... i'll run this show.

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    • #92
      No..you missunderstand..I agree it was a reply in kind..perfectly within normal rules of engagement..I'm saying they are gonna keep pushing it untill at some point it comes to that. No one wants it except folks to make our government look bad. Even just trump himself..so they can use it against him. There's plenty of video evidence of Clinton and Obama both saying the same stuff trump is saying. But now that's ignored...the hypocrisy is under believable..... Let's hope it don't come to real bullets
      Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
      it was the right amount of strength for now. they win if we shoot at this point. you have a grunts mind. i have a generals mind. you have to wait for the right time. let them give us a real reason to pop em. stand at post soldier... i'll run this show.
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      • #93
        ahem... from NBC reporter.

        majority grown men..

        https://twitter.com/GadiNBC/status/1...caravan-65-men

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        • #94
          I know I’m late to the party but my opinion you like it or not is basically fuck everyone in that caravan.
          I spent years, thousands of dollars and went through miles of red tape to get my green card and I’m a hard working tax paying immigrant.
          There are millions of others who had their cases denied and deported even though they applied for their green card legally, families have been torn (not just Mexicans) and there are million others waiting in line to get their papers legally and these fuckers are just gonna walk up to the border and we should just open the doors and give them everything they want.
          Fuck that shit!
          And what else comes with the free entry to the country?
          Free food stamps? Free health care? Free housing?
          How come I don’t get shit for free? Why am I paying over a thousand dollars a month for health care? Why did I had to spend almost $10k get my shit?
          Fuck! If those fuckers get in for free I want my money back!

          This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative but it has everything to do with being fair.

          It is not fair to the ones have been waiting in line for years or decades. It’s not fair for the ones that has been deported because the information on their paperwork wasn’t good enough.

          Been through a lot and seen tons of sad shit but we supposed let these fuckers walk right in because they walked up to the border.
          Yeah right! Lol.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by BEAST View Post
            I know I’m late to the party but my opinion you like it or not is basically fuck everyone in that caravan.
            I spent years, thousands of dollars and went through miles of red tape to get my green card and I’m a hard working tax paying immigrant.
            There are millions of others who had their cases denied and deported even though they applied for their green card legally, families have been torn (not just Mexicans) and there are million others waiting in line to get their papers legally and these fuckers are just gonna walk up to the border and we should just open the doors and give them everything they want.
            Fuck that shit!
            And what else comes with the free entry to the country?
            Free food stamps? Free health care? Free housing?
            How come I don’t get shit for free? Why am I paying over a thousand dollars a month for health care? Why did I had to spend almost $10k get my shit?
            Fuck! If those fuckers get in for free I want my money back!

            This has nothing to do with liberal or conservative but it has everything to do with being fair.

            It is not fair to the ones have been waiting in line for years or decades. It’s not fair for the ones that has been deported because the information on their paperwork wasn’t good enough.

            Been through a lot and seen tons of sad shit but we supposed let these fuckers walk right in because they walked up to the border.
            Yeah right! Lol.
            Well said brother.

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            • #96
              With Migrants Stalled at U.S. Doorstep, Mexico Offers a Fresh Start

              Border city aims to fill thousands of manufacturing roles with Central American migrants and asylum seekers unable to enter U.S.


              TIJUANA, Mexico—Facing diminishing prospects of entering the U.S., Central American migrants in this Mexican border city are turning to the local job market as authorities pitch more than 7,000 vacancies.

              The Mexican government set up a job fair that works as a one-stop shop to file for asylum in Mexico, obtain a social security number and sign job contracts in Tijuana, a manufacturing hub with one of Mexico’s lowest unemployment rates.

              Amid the Trump administration’s hard-line immigration stance, days of waiting to request asylum in the U.S. have stretched into weeks. Now, job openings at low-wage plants—commonly termed “maquiladoras”—could help reduce tensions on the U.S.-Mexico border and ease Tijuana’s tight labor market.

              Close to 3,500 migrants who arrived in Tijuana in the past month have attended the job fair, Mexico’s National Employment Service estimates. The fair began around Nov. 20, but attendance increased late in the month after hundreds of migrants made a rush for the border fence in an attempt to cross, but were turned back by U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers who fired tear gas.

              “For the duration of their stay, we want it to be legal and contribute to economic development,” said Luis Rodolfo Enríquez, the regional head of the employment service, which organized the job fair.

              Mr. Enríquez estimates that some 2,000 of the 5,000 Central Americans encamped in Tijuana could have jobs by the end of December when the fair is finished.

              The city of 1.6 million inhabitants is a hub for labor-intensive plants that assemble everything from flat-screen televisions to medical equipment that is exported tariff-free to the U.S.

              The low salaries paid by these firms in Mexico were among the main reasons President Trump demanded a renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada. The new trade deal signed by the three countries last month aims to improve wages and labor conditions in Mexico and discourage plants from relocating from the U.S. to Mexico.

              The city has an unemployment rate of just 2.8%, below the average 4.1% jobless rate in Mexico’s main 33 cities.

              “There are opportunities here, and if migrants want to take advantage of them, they are within their reach,” said Ernesto Bravo, head of the western division of Tecma, a U.S. firm that helps foreign companies set up operations in Mexico.

              Wages at most maquiladora jobs are double or triple the country’s minimum wage, which is currently less than $5 a day.

              Tijuana is among Mexico’s most violent cities, but for Marcos Chacón, it is still safer and more prosperous than his Honduran hometown of San Pedro Sula. A few weeks ago, the 40-year-old construction worker decided to look for work in Tijuana rather than join a waiting list with thousands of migrants seeking to petition for asylum in the U.S.

              The $65 a week a construction firm has offered him will be enough to move out of the migrant shelter and rent a home with a couple of fellow Honduran migrants, he said.

              “You can make a living here, but the problem is that I won’t be able to save enough to send money to my wife and children back home,” Mr. Chacón said as he lined up to get his social security number.

              The fair is hosted under a big white tent on the grounds of a Salesian Catholic mission, featuring stands of Mexican government agencies and employers, including supermarket chain Organización Soriana SA B, Mexican meatpacker SuKarne, and ManPower Group Inc.

              “We want you in the team,” read a flyer distributed by SuKarne, which offers wages of about $65 a week after taxes; transport to and from the firm’s plant; health coverage with the Mexican Social Security Institute, a federal health-care provider; and a $15 signing bonus. Workers who stay in the job are promised a $75 bonus for their first three and six months of work.

              “We need to fill 33 positions as soon as possible,” said Alejandro Gurrola, the human resources director of the firm’s plant in Tijuana, where some 200 workers process pork legs.

              The schooling of most caravan migrants, who are mostly young Honduran men, is about six years, below Tijuana’s average of 9.7 years, according to a recent survey conducted by the Colegio de la Frontera Norte.

              Only two migrants who attended the fair had college degrees, authorities said. Most are rural or construction workers, and only 9% have operated industrial equipment, the survey found.

              “As long as they can read and write, that is enough for us,” said Mr. Gurrola as he showed job candidates a video of the Tijuana plant on his laptop. “There’s turnover and a lot of competition for workers in Tijuana’s labor market.”

              Julio César Arteaga said a bullet wound he sustained in a confrontation with a gang member in Honduras could hinder him from finding a job in the booming manufacturing sector, but he filed for asylum and work-authorization last week.

              “As long as I have a job, I don’t care where I am,” he said as he sold loose cigarettes for 25 cents apiece near the shelter’s main entrance.

              https://www.wsj.com/articles/with-mi...d=hp_lead_pos6

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