liver ultrasound

[the art of war]

In your case, Thistle is not going to help much, if any...Typically someone would take Thistle(like I do)way before issue like this happen....Do you know if you're producing enough Albumin?

thx for the response bro - the only thing low was my iron and that wasn't bad either - I could scan the bloodwork tomorrow - maybe you could have a look at it when you have more time?

By aggressive do you mean stressed/angry about the situation you are in, if so I agree that is a dangerous place to be in your situation, just stay positive and convince yourself everything is gonna end up right in the long run.

seriously bro - I have had some fucked up things in my life - it's left me kinda fucked in the head - I don't mind it and I can control it almost all the time - but I won't leave my house unless it's my best friend or doctor at this point, I almost got locked up mountain biking this morning, I just have no tolerance to people that bother me. It's childish - but it's part of a fucked up background - the thing is I enjoy being like this so I don't need anything else instigating me (like the liver in this case).

[Bouncer]

In your case, Thistle is not going to help much, if any...Typically someone would take Thistle(like I do)way before issue like this happen....Do you know if you're producing enough Albumin?

thats why i suggested that liver X.

its designed for people that are heavy drinkers and damaged livers.

not that it will cure him but i imagine it will be more effective then basic thistle.

[Konitz]

By aggressive do you mean stressed/angry about the situation you are in, if so I agree that is a dangerous place to be in your situation, just stay positive and convince yourself everything is gonna end up right in the long run.

[the art of war]

what is the "aggressive" you keep talking about.

you aint no more agressive then a little boy playing with his dick when he nervous.

:rofl::rofl: you fuckface.

[Bouncer]

I'm thinking about all the wrong things - this shit fucks with me - won't lie. Normally I am a set your mind to something and fix it person - with this you it's just been weeks of constantly being confused. And no I'm not going to do anything stupid, not rec drugs atleast - I am getting more and more aggressive so I have to be careful bout where i go and what i do.

what is the "aggressive" you keep talking about.

you aint no more agressive then a little boy playing with his dick when he nervous.

[the art of war]

Hope you figure this out man, after all your hard work getting clean, you must be thinking wtf now.

I'm thinking about all the wrong things - this shit fucks with me - won't lie. Normally I am a set your mind to something and fix it person - with this you it's just been weeks of constantly being confused. And no I'm not going to do anything stupid, not rec drugs atleast - I am getting more and more aggressive so I have to be careful bout where i go and what i do.

[Konitz]

Hope you figure this out man, after all your hard work getting clean, you must be thinking wtf now.

[the art of war]

how about your food? any chance someone could get something in ANYTHING you eat? is the people you live with cool and normal? do they have anything agaisnt you, have you ever done them wrong.

i wouldn't normally suggest something so stupid and outrageous but something isnt right here.

it's fine bro - since I quit the rec shit I moved back home, was living in a fucking dope house - my parents are more concerned than I am at this point because I continually stress that I am not gonna tolerate talking about it and making the stress worse - they know how aggressive I can get and opening another can of worms like this makes me that closer to catching some stupid felony for a fight or something. I've had VERY limited contact w/anyone except for a few childhood friends who have stuck with me - the rest I cast to the storm. All of my food is bulk, cooked bulk, and I have been using plastic wrap as the covers (I hate to say this but you never can know, I've been fucked over before and I had to know if it could be true that my family had that sort of a grudge). My food doesn't move / the wrap is the exact same, I had even written small marks on the wrapper to make sure about it - unoticeable to anyone but me. You see what this is fucking doing to me lol?

[Bouncer]

not shitting you the first thing I thought about all this is I wonder if somebody is slipping me shit. I am not living alone atm but I've been drinking nothing but bottled water for the last couple weeks because of that very concern. If somebody is slipping me something I have no idea how it would be done - if I ever find out that is it though I will fucking slip lead - this shit needs to stop.

how about your food? any chance someone could get something in ANYTHING you eat? is the people you live with cool and normal? do they have anything agaisnt you, have you ever done them wrong.

i wouldn't normally suggest something so stupid and outrageous but something isnt right here.

[the art of war]

do you live by yourself? any chance someone is slipping something in your drinks?

half joking but you gotta rule everything out to get to the bottom of this.

not shitting you the first thing I thought about all this is I wonder if somebody is slipping me shit. I am not living alone atm but I've been drinking nothing but bottled water for the last couple weeks because of that very concern. If somebody is slipping me something I have no idea how it would be done - if I ever find out that is it though I will fucking slip lead - this shit needs to stop.

[Bouncer]

do you live by yourself? any chance someone is slipping something in your drinks?

half joking but you gotta rule everything out to get to the bottom of this.

[the art of war]

Wish they would just send out a letter that said "You already know shit's not right, just come in and we will figure it out". The #s get in your head if you aren't careful - it's a legitimate concern but that being said, I could prolly raise my ALT values by stressing over it - so fuck that.

[the art of war]

stop the multi until you get this figured out. it wont hurt to stop for a month or so.

order a few of these and triple the suggested does. much better then basic milk thistle.
LiverX with BioSorb 60 vegetarian caps Vegetarian Caps

dont use any kind of creatine etc.. for the next month. kill the extra protein powder and just get your protein from healthy food. DO take fish oil also. 6 caps a day.

drink a gal of water per day. not 1.5... to much.

Done and done - I ordered my creatine/no products and they are sitting there sealed. I really have taken everystep I could figure to try to get to the bottom of this. Thanks for the advice B.

[Bouncer]

that is what is fucking with me - aside from milk thistle and multi I am not taking anything. I don't drink, don't even take anything outside whey for lifting right now just because of the fact I knew my liver was having some sort of problem - I just don't get it, and the fact remains it's gone 48,129,240,466 - the 48 was drawn at my outpatient clinic when i was all sorts of fucked up - now I'm clean and the shit's going off the charts... dunno bro, shit's fucking frustrating.

stop the multi until you get this figured out. it wont hurt to stop for a month or so.

order a few of these and triple the suggested does. much better then basic milk thistle.
LiverX with BioSorb 60 vegetarian caps Vegetarian Caps

dont use any kind of creatine etc.. for the next month. kill the extra protein powder and just get your protein from healthy food. DO take fish oil also. 6 caps a day.

drink a gal of water per day. not 1.5... to much.

[the art of war]

no i dont blame you for wanting to rant.

this is pretty odd. could there be any supplements your taking, any food your eating, and liquid your drinking that is some how tainted with something?

i never heard of liver values raising like this when you are NOT taking any kind of drug and living a healthy life.

that is what is fucking with me - aside from milk thistle and multi I am not taking anything. I don't drink, don't even take anything outside whey for lifting right now just because of the fact I knew my liver was having some sort of problem - I just don't get it, and the fact remains it's gone 48,129,240,466 - the 48 was drawn at my outpatient clinic when i was all sorts of fucked up - now I'm clean and the shit's going off the charts... dunno bro, shit's fucking frustrating.