My promis to myself with your help...

[FitnessBrat]

I have trouble understanding the small meal and how it can have such a huge effect on me. Its not like I am going to McDonalds or eating shit. Eating every few hours seems crazy to me and forcing myself to do has been very difficult.

I think one of the biggest problems is being at home. My Mom doesn't really understand this meal set up and neither do the majority of my friends. I'm hoping that time spent with a trainer will help my attitude.

You need to eat that way to speed up your metabolism. Before you know it, you WILL be looking forward to that next meal, even if it has only been 2 or 3 hours since you last ate. It's hard to comprehend that until you actually do it and see.

[Bouncer]

I have trouble understanding the small meal and how it can have such a huge effect on me. Its not like I am going to McDonalds or eating shit. Eating every few hours seems crazy to me and forcing myself to do has been very difficult.

I think one of the biggest problems is being at home. My Mom doesn't really understand this meal set up and neither do the majority of my friends. I'm hoping that time spent with a trainer will help my attitude.

you just have to realize that it does work. stop thinking about it so much and just do it for a few months straight without any BS. take some pics of yourself before and after and you will see that the results speak for themselves. it really is that cut and dry bro. do it and you will get results.

your mom, your friends, none of them are going to get you the results you want. this is something you have to do for yourself.

[FitnessBrat]

do it and you will get results.

Pretty much JUST like that.

Sort of seems like you're overanalyzing everything. Just stop questioning everything, try it out, and you'll see. It can't "harm" you, and it's only going to help you. :)

[Bouncer]

Pretty much JUST like that.

Sort of seems like you're overanalyzing everything. Just stop questioning everything, try it out, and you'll see. It can't "harm" you, and it's only going to help you. :)

somehow it is more then that with chris. i dont understand it because i dont think like him. but i can tell, he reads the words we say, he understands them, but other factors in his mind seem to overpower the simple cut and dry results idea. it really is a weakness that he needs to realize he has and overcome because it will prevent him from ever being happy with his body.

[FitnessBrat]

somehow it is more then that with chris. i dont understand it because i dont think like him. but i can tell, he reads the words we say, he understands them, but other factors in his mind seem to overpower the simple cut and dry results idea. it really is a weakness that he needs to realize he has and overcome because it will prevent him from ever being happy with his body.

I understand what you're saying - but like you say, he's going to just have to "try it and see" to accomplish anything. :dunno:

[wnabeabeast]

Chris, I think the problem is you are sweating the small stuff too much, like what post workout shake to have? or how many grams of fat is in flank steak vs ribeye? things like that, diferences between sugar types in your post workout shakes or amount of fat in your stake is neglegible you are not training for a bodybuilding show you are just dieting to get in shape don't complicate things as long as you have proteinshake with some low acidic juice you are ok just make sure your protein powder is low in sodium try to do what I said earlier keep your protein intake at least one gram per pound of your body weight(if you want you can even go 1.5 grams) manipulate your carbs and add some heathy fats and you are golden.


This is what I mean when I say manipulate your carbs, start with high carbs on sunday(as much as 500gr), mon tue wed bring your carbs down to as low as 50gr (don't count your post workot shake as part of your carb intake for the day) and up your fat intake to 120 grams a day, I know it sounds like alot of fat but belive me it is not and it's easy to eat it too. Like adding couple of table spoons of peanut butter in your morning oatmeal, have half an avacado with every meal(except breakfast), drizzle couple of table spoons of flaxseed oil on your vegetables and add a serving of mct oil in your protein shakes and that's it.:D

Oh almost forgot...vegetables are very important you can have it with your every meal and you can have almost as much as you want they'll keep your track moving.


Now thu, fri, sat up you carbs by 50gr a day and lower your fats by 20gr a day and you are back to sunday carbload before you know it.

Out of bunch of diets that I tried with my clients this one works the best and because they alowed to eat all those carbs on sunday they stay sain, to them it's became like a game, no carb on mon, tue, wed game

anywho I know it seems pretty complicated rightnow but it's not let me know what you think about it.:)

[FitnessBrat]

Chris, I think the problem is you are sweating the small stuff too much, like what post workout shake to have? or how many grams of fat is in flank steak vs ribeye? things like that, diferences between sugar types in your post workout shakes or amount of fat in your stake is neglegible you are not training for a bodybuilding show you are just dieting to get in shape don't complicate things as long as you have proteinshake with some low acidic juice you are ok just make sure your protein powder is low in sodium try to do what I said earlier keep your protein intake at least one gram per pound of your body weight(if you want you can even go 1.5 grams) manipulate your carbs and add some heathy fats and you are golden.


This is what I mean when I say manipulate your carbs, start with high carbs on sunday(as much as 500gr), mon tue wed bring your carbs down to as low as 50gr (don't count your post workot shake as part of your carb intake for the day) and up your fat intake to 120 grams a day, I know it sounds like alot of fat but belive me it is not and it's easy to eat it too. Like adding couple of table spoons of peanut butter in your morning oatmeal, have half an avacado with every meal(except breakfast), drizzle couple of table spoons of flaxseed oil on your vegetables and add a serving of mct oil in your protein shakes and that's it.:D

Oh almost forgot...vegetables are very important you can have it with your every meal and you can have almost as much as you want they'll keep your track moving.


Now thu, fri, sat up you carbs by 50gr a day and lower your fats by 20gr a day and you are back to sunday carbload before you know it.

Out of bunch of diets that I tried with my clients this one works the best and because they alowed to eat all those carbs on sunday they stay sain, to them it's became like a game, no carb on mon, tue, wed game

anywho I know it seems pretty complicated rightnow but it's not let me know what you think about it.:)

lol, "it's easy Chris"...

YOU just posted the most complicated post of anyone. :wacko:

[wnabeabeast]

lol, "it's easy Chris"...

YOU just posted the most complicated post of anyone. :wacko:

Naah it sounds hard but it's not.
I think I kinda made it simpler at the end by saying mon tue wed no carb day game.
Didn't I?:dunno::D

[FitnessBrat]

Naah it sounds hard but it's not.
I think I kinda made it simpler at the end by saying mon tue wed no carb day game.
Didn't I?:dunno::D

I didn't say it was hard. I just meant by trying to make things "simple" to someone that overthinks - you came along and threw in all kinds of stuff lol. :P

[wnabeabeast]

I didn't say it was hard. I just meant by trying to make things "simple" to someone that overthinks - you came along and threw in all kinds of stuff lol. :P

Sorry!:( :D

[Bouncer]

Sorry!:( :D

you were never accused of being a genius were you. :drunk:

[wnabeabeast]

you were never accused of being a genius were you. :drunk:

Yeeaaah actually I was many times, that's the problem...I am to smart for my own good.:D:evil:

[NewbieChris]

Just so none of you have an aneurysm reading this post. I have not given this guy any money yet, and I have not agreed to anything. Today was my 'sizing up' day to determine where I am at and exactly what he needs to do with the workout. It is a strict circuit routine with about 10 exercises and then a break. The following is the diet he has prescribed...

6:15
Multi-vitamin
litre of water
green tea

6:30
40 min of cardio (HR 160)

7:15
1/3 cup dry oats
6 egg whites, 1 yolk (2 on lifting days)
1 serving of Fiber Choice (tablet)

10:30
3 scoops Ctyogainer w/ water

1:45
6 oz chicken
6 oz veggies
1/2 cup of starch

5:00
same as above with steak

6:00-7:00
M-W-F: Lift 'circuit' + 30 minutes of easy cardio
T/Th-Sat: 40 min cardio (he is a very large fan of the stair master)

7:00pm
2 scoops whey
2 pieces of white bread, 1 on non workout days (Specifically says the white bread because it will be absorbed quickly)

7:45
same as 5:00 and 1:45

9:30
4 egg whites

10:15
Casein 1 scoop and 1 fibre choice



I am somewhat skeptical. I like the idea of eggs as my last meal, but I am worried specifically about the ctyogainer replacing a meal. I am also somewhat worried about the casein protein. My supplement costs when from almost nothing to through the roof. Although I suppose I will be saving money in food, but I just don't know.

[Bouncer]

Just so none of you have an aneurysm reading this post. I have not given this guy any money yet, and I have not agreed to anything. Today was my 'sizing up' day to determine where I am at and exactly what he needs to do with the workout. It is a strict circuit routine with about 10 exercises and then a break. The following is the diet he has prescribed...

6:15
Multi-vitamin
litre of water
green tea

6:30
40 min of cardio (HR 160)

7:15
1/3 cup dry oats
6 egg whites, 1 yolk (2 on lifting days)
1 serving of Fiber Choice (tablet)

10:30
3 scoops Ctyogainer w/ water

1:45
6 oz chicken
6 oz veggies
1/2 cup of starch

5:00
same as above with steak

6:00-7:00
M-W-F: Lift 'circuit' + 30 minutes of easy cardio
T/Th-Sat: 40 min cardio (he is a very large fan of the stair master)

7:00pm
2 scoops whey
2 pieces of white bread, 1 on non workout days (Specifically says the white bread because it will be absorbed quickly)

7:45
same as 5:00 and 1:45

9:30
4 egg whites

10:15
Casein 1 scoop and 1 fibre choice



I am somewhat skeptical. I like the idea of eggs as my last meal, but I am worried specifically about the ctyogainer replacing a meal. I am also somewhat worried about the casein protein. My supplement costs when from almost nothing to through the roof. Although I suppose I will be saving money in food, but I just don't know.

i would like to see the calorie breakdown and protein/carbs/fats in grams in each meal. looks a bit all over the place to me. 4 eggs whites as a meal? 1/2 cup of startch? 11 total meals?

i would rather see a more complete setup stretched over 6-7 meals then random little meals stretched over 11.

[NewbieChris]

Well there are really only 8 meals. There are 11 breakdowns there, but not all are meals. The first one isn't a meal, neither is the 6:30 am or 6:00 pm. Those are just there to let you know when I am doing things.

Overall what do you think about the meals and their contents? I don't mind the small serving of starch.