Andro's Get Lean Log w/ Pics

[Androman]

I was never blaming it on the steroids I was telling you how my body reacts to the dose I was saying


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[Bouncer]

Any cardio?

[Androman]

Andro's Get Lean Log w/ Pics

It's only been a little over a week and so far my stomach has gotten a bit flat but I still have the soft fat* around my abdominals. This obviously takes some time


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[Androman]

And that's why I've been argumentative about all this. You guys are acting like it's the AAS that's causing a look you don't want. But really it's just body fat which is controlled by diet and cardio as you know.

But you gotta be honest with yourself and not blame shit that's not the problem.

I never said that. I said what was the cause with my current body type. I was bringing in all factors including bodyfat. At a dose with my bodyfat, Test doesn't cause the look I'd want so that's why I'm saying a lower dose for the less sides. I dropped from a gram to 600 and I'm already looking much better along with DIETING. Now I'm dropping it lower to 350 and we'll see how it looks there.


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[Bouncer]

That's the goal partner.


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And that's why I've been argumentative about all this. You guys are acting like it's the AAS that's causing a look you don't want. But really it's just body fat which is controlled by diet and cardio as you know.

But you gotta be honest with yourself and not blame shit that's not the problem.

[Androman]

Whatever dose you want. Get your bodyfat down and your look will change drastically. Being bloated while shredded is a great look. That's not the look you have. This is a body fat issue bro. Stick to the diet and keep doing your thing.

That's the goal partner.


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[Bouncer]

Whatever dose you want. Get your bodyfat down and your look will change drastically. Being bloated while shredded is a great look. That's not the look you have. This is a body fat issue bro. Stick to the diet and keep doing your thing.

[Androman]

I'm just telling you, lower AAS dose isn't going to do much for your overall look unless your willing to diet harder and start doing cardio. Trust me bro, I know what it takes to be shredded to the bone.

What dose do you think would be efficient enough?


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[Bouncer]

I'm just telling you, lower AAS dose isn't going to do much for your overall look unless your willing to diet harder and start doing cardio. Trust me bro, I know what it takes to be shredded to the bone.

Get your body fat lower and your face will change drastically. The way your body handles nutrients and a low bodyfat is much different from when your fat.

Your issue is bodyfat imo.

[Androman]

nope. sorry. double your ai dose and the whole carbohydrate theory will go out the window.

It's also not a theory. Get on keto, drop your carbs and you will rid of all the water retention carbs make you hold. Carbohydrates do make you hold water, testosterone (for me) at high dosages makes this more pronounced. How? I don't know but it just does, for me, in my experience. I wake up with a flat face, I eat my bowl of oatmeal and i get the chubby cheeks.


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[Androman]

nope. sorry. double your ai dose and the whole carbohydrate theory will go out the window.

If I do do that, here's what'll happen; I won't hold water in my face...I won't hold water in my muscles. They'll get flat. My bones will ache. And I'll feel like shit. It's about finding the balance between ur AI and test dosage. On 600mg .5mg adex EOD works fine. I do 0.5mg ED and I get unwanted sides. You can not tell me what happens to my body.


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[Bouncer]

No I didn't say it was directly from the test. I said that the test makes me more sensitive to Carbohydrates and I meant glycogen retention so the higher I run testosterone even with a dialed in ai, when I eat a carb meal My muscles get full, but my face gets the chipmunk cheeks. I can feel it when I smile.

When I don't take the AI, I get the double chin. And my jawline kinda fades. I don't want either or.



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nope. sorry. double your ai dose and the whole carbohydrate theory will go out the window.

[Androman]

I will repeat myself until you get it. YOU WERE NOT RUNNING YOUR AI HIGH ENOUGH.

If your getting a bloated face from test it's because there is still aromitization going on.

No I didn't say it was directly from the test. I said that the test makes me more sensitive to Carbohydrates and I meant glycogen retention so the higher I run testosterone even with a dialed in ai, when I eat a carb meal My muscles get full, but my face gets the chipmunk cheeks. I can feel it when I smile.

When I don't take the AI, I get the double chin. And my jawline kinda fades. I don't want either or.



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[boricuarage79]

He shouldn't have to run higher AI dose

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[Bouncer]

From my experience testosterone with an AI doesn't bloat my directly, your right. But my face still holds water. That's what I don't want. The bloated face. On anything over 400mg of Test, I eat a bowl of white rice or oatmeal and the muscles on my face get full and I get somewhat tight chipmunk cheeks. Higher test makes me more sensitive to Carbohydrates, so when I eat some carbs my muscles tend to fill up but the same happens to my face.




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I will repeat myself until you get it. YOU WERE NOT RUNNING YOUR AI HIGH ENOUGH.

If your getting a bloated face from test it's because there is still aromitization going on.