Wife Won't "Let" Me Juice

[muscledoc]

Diamond.
This is a touchy subject and the only one who knows your relationship is you. However, you are never going to get her to see your side no matter what you do or say. She will not read the boards because she is acting out of emotion and reason has nothing to do with it.
If you really want to do it and you're over 21 just do it. What does it matter if she thinks your gains are superficial or not. Gains are gains.
Men and women dont process information through the same channels and you will most likely never see eye to eye.

[sana]

Originally posted by muscledoc
Diamond.
This is a touchy subject and the only one who knows your relationship is you. However, you are never going to get her to see your side no matter what you do or say. She will not read the boards because she is acting out of emotion and reason has nothing to do with it.
If you really want to do it and you're over 21 just do it. What does it matter if she thinks your gains are superficial or not. Gains are gains.
Men and women dont process information through the same channels and you will most likely never see eye to eye.

from a female perspective, this is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you should do.

if you go behind her back and do it after already having started the conversation with her, she will resent you and the actions you chose to take even more.

i would do as doom advised, discuss with her what you have learned about the benefits of AAS and dispell myths she may have about steroids. like he said, what's more important? a lifetime together with the woman you love or a few pounds of muscle?

and remember, regardless of the drug, the line between use and abuse is fine. from alcohol to cocaine to AAS, abuse is what makes a junkie. educated use and taking responsibility for the results of your use is what will seperate you from a junkie.

[muscledoc]

It's a control issue. You're over21 and a free citizen. Do what you want.

[sana]

Originally posted by muscledoc
It's a control issue. You're over21 and a free citizen. Do what you want.

it's a relationship and it's about being deceptive. it's about the erosion of trust and losing his relationship.

it's not about being able to do it or not. it's about how he can go about doing it without damaging his marriage.

[The_Jarhead]

My wife was the same way. All you can do is try and teach her the truth.
What helped with me was being personal friends with some of the people on this and other boards. I had her talk to them and she was then able to her from someone else that the myths and just just and used correctly AS can be done in a sfae way.

Now she can't wait to give me my shots.

[muscledoc]

It is about trust.
If she gave him credit for being a responsible inelligent adult and not try to mother him, she would trust his decision and "let" him do what he thinks is best.

PS> Obviously I'm divorced. But very happily I might add.

[sana]

Originally posted by muscledoc
It is about trust.
If she gave him credit for being a responsible inelligent adult and not try to mother him, she would trust his decision and "let" him do what he thinks is best.

PS> Obviously I'm divorced. But very happily I might add.

i was going to comment that i felt sorry for your wife.

i will say again though that it does not seem that he is ready to head towards breaking up his relationship. and if she has no understanding of what it is he wants to put into his body - she will never trust that AAS is a good decision.

it's about being able to make an educated decision. for him, and for her.

[muscledoc]

I'll remain PC and not comment again .

[BIKER_GIXXER]

Originally posted by New_Mass
Who's wearing the pants anyway. Just like you listen and respect her wishes, she should do the same. Bro.. you have to step up to the plate otherwise "subconsciously" she wont have any respect for you, yet alone your interest and goals.

I agree 100%. What do you mean she won't 'LET' you, what are you a child? Your a grown man bro, put your foot down and let her know you'll do what you want, when you want.

[sana]

Originally posted by BIKER_GIXXER
I agree 100%. What do you mean she won't 'LET' you, what are you a child? Your a grown man bro, put your foot down and let her know you'll do what you want, when you want.

this is the type of macho "i don't give a shit b/c i'm a man and i wanna get big" that gives saucebags their bad names.

what would you do if the shoe were on the other foot? you do not use steroids, you have only mass media perceptions of AAS and your wife says one day "i want to put some more muscle on, i'd like to start a cycle of var".

would you say the same thing to her? "she's a grown woman, and she should just let you know she'll do what she wants when she wants?"

it's just the wrong way to go about doing something especially since he's already started the conversation with her about wanting to start AAS.

[BIKER_GIXXER]

Originally posted by sana
this is the type of macho "i don't give a shit b/c i'm a man and i wanna get big" that gives saucebags their bad names.

what would you do if the shoe were on the other foot? you do not use steroids, you have only mass media perceptions of AAS and your wife says one day "i want to put some more muscle on, i'd like to start a cycle of var".

would you say the same thing to her? "she's a grown woman, and she should just let you know she'll do what she wants when she wants?"

it's just the wrong way to go about doing something especially since he's already started the conversation with her about wanting to start AAS.

It's got nothing to do with being 'macho' or sauced up. He's already been considerate by talking to her 'first' and listening to her side of the story, but guess what, when it comes down to it, he should do want he wants, period.

What if the shoe was on the other foot? That's easy 'do what you want, but this is how I feel'. That's my response if wifey does something I don't agree with.

Been this way for years, has nothing to do with sauce.

[muscledoc]

Right on Biker...
It has become so acceptable for men to be led around by the nose. Being a man has become being a woman with a penis. Read "What Could He Be Thinking". It's a good book on the differences,chemically, between male and female brains. We dont process information the same way, or see the world the same way. It has nothing to do with superiority, just differences. We will never be what women want us to be. We cant. But most act as if they can just to keep the peace and becaue it has become "in".

My one pet peeve, well maybe I have more then one, is women who treat their men as if they were one of their children and the men who allow it.

Whew, I feel better now.

[sana]

it has nothing to do with her treating him like a child and leading him around by his nose.

his wife has a mass media perception of the evils of steroid "abuse". she believes it will be harmful to his body. she, as his partner in life, is more than entitled to be worried that steroid use may harm his health in life.

what i am saying is that he needs to take the educated approach to teach her about AAS as he himself learns about it. he needs to show her that he respects her intelligence enough to understand that steroids can be used to achieve his goals without damage to his body.

the way you guys are making it sound like is that she - even having been educated about AAS - would still hold the same opinion.

tell me how she's treating him like a child if she's concerned about her husbands physical welfare?

[BIKER_GIXXER]

Originally posted by muscledoc
Right on Biker...
It has become so acceptable for men to be led around by the nose. Being a man has become being a woman with a penis. Read "What Could He Be Thinking". It's a good book on the differences,chemically, between male and female brains. We dont process information the same way, or see the world the same way. It has nothing to do with superiority, just differences. We will never be what women want us to be. We cant. But most act as if they can just to keep the peace and becaue it has become "in".

My one pet peeve, well maybe I have more then one, is women who treat their men as if they were one of their children and the men who allow it.

Whew, I feel better now.

Sounds like a good book bro, i'll have to check it out. i agree with you, to many men have fallen into the 'yes dear, no dear' type of thought. I'm on of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, but damn if I'll allow myself to get sucked into that mess, lol.

[Lmg2701]

I wanted to stay out of this but what the heck.....

He said in his first comment that he can't even get her to look on these boards and read anything about them. Basically she's being closed minded to the whole thing. She's going to sit there and believe what the media has to say rather than what her husband would like to show her. Personally I'd tell her to get off her power trip and educate herself a little bit more. If she doesn't agree to at least educate herself about the topic so that she can make a better and more logical decision as if whether or not she will "let" her husband take AS, then I would take it and not give a second thought as to what her opinion may be. He has tried to listen to her side but for her to shut him off and not listen to his side is bull$hit. Thank you and have a nice day :D