NYS drug laws HAVE to be changed

[hitmansb]

Originally posted by Doom
My point in 2 sentences..THANK YOU!!!

I have a way with words :D You're welcome!

[Chris]

Originally posted by Doom
Kid your gonna be the death of me, seriously..LOL
It was a fight that shouldnt have escalted to the level that it did, and they knew what they were doing, and maybe she had underlying reasons for going on outside in a small ass town at 2 in the morning, who knows, but if someone was the cause of ur cousin to wind up in jail, how fond of them would you be?
Now I know youre gonna look for the good in everyone, and as Ive said before, this was his bride to be, the person you share the rest of your life with, you build a life with, and because she couldnt calm down and listen to reason, he spends the next decade in jail...do you understand that, or do I have to go into deeper detail?

It seems with everything I post about what I do and about my surroundings you have some form of rebuttle, it doesnt work that way, as Ive told you before with fighting, whats done is done, you cant change the past, you can only work for the moment, and that will bring the future, and no one knows what the hell that is.

Becaue I say the laws have to be changed doesnt mean Im gonna go out and start marching in protest, these laws are older than I am, and they arent gonna change.

Dude you took my question to another entirely different level. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be the death of you and I don't mean to refute everything you say. I ask a lot of questions. :-\ Its just in my nature, of course I could have just assumed that you didn't like her because of that. I didn't tho, I was thinking there were other things in addition to it maybe. You posted a response to everyone to correct them on the "ratting" deal. I read the last sentence and thought you might have thought of it was their fight instead of hers, in which case they would both be to blame. I want to add something here in explanation of my question, but I will say this. I have had an experinece where drugs ruined one of my best friends life and it was a direct cause of someone else and I don't blaim that person.

And about the laws changing, all I was trying to say was, by doing drugs you only serve to reinforce the laws that are already there. Thats it, nothing else.

THIS IS SOULY TO CALRIFY WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY EARLIER, NOT CHALLENGE WHAT YOU BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Doom
Everyone does something wrong in their life, it could be crime, it could be drugs, lying, cheating, who knows, but everyone has fault, thasts the point I was making here, and the sad thing is that he is going to a place, where REAL criminals, the kind of people that wouldnt think twice about gutting you like a fish, all because hes guilty of getting high...that seems reasonable? because whats wrong is whats wrong?

Unless you have real world expierence and can rellate to things I speak of on here, from now on, please dont add to them. I think you mean well, and I think you, you think you understand from what you see and what you can interpret, but until you live it, you have have no idea

I think you were really right when you say I have 'foot in the mouth" disorder. I think Juice had the jist of what I was trying to say down pat. I think you still think I am judging what people do and the people themselves. I don't, really, really, really, really! I am a man of opinions, I guees if you wish me to keep them to myself I will do my best. Again, please don't assume that just because I don't share your beliefs that I haven't had these types of experiences, I think this reminds me of our last discussion.

Chris

BTW, theres nothing wrong with "getting high" if thats your thing...

[Doom]

I think maybe you need to ask around a bit, and get to understand what type of person I am, cause thats the one thing I dont think youve figured out yet. While you have ur opinion on the subject, Ive lived the subject...its a much broader spectrum, to view from

FYI, Im a recovering addict, getting high is no longer my thing

[Primal Instinct]

LOL, you two are like water and oil or better yet, one of you speaks German while the other speaks Chinese- you just can't get the points across without a translator. LOL.

Chris, we know you're not a bad guy. Don't try to clarify things though bro, it just gets muddier, lol.

[Chris]

Originally posted by Doom
I think maybe you need to ask around a bit, and get to understand what type of person I am, cause thats the one thing I dont think youve figured out yet. While you have ur opinion on the subject, Ive lived the subject...its a much broader spectrum, to view from

FYI, Im a recovering addict, getting high is no longer my thing

What you don't understand is that while I haven't been an addict or anything like that I have been close to people who have and it's been hard. So, I guess you are saying that I personally have to experience it, which is cool. I suppose I will have to be censored and keep to myself in a corner because my comments seem too much. You say your open to opinions and comments, then you crap on them when they arrive, so I'll just do m best to stay out. Sorry. :(

Chris

[Doom]

its to early for me to respond to this, I just woke up
but quickly, you dropping opinions, upon twp very personal matters, in which your opinion of the situation, while it hold s merit, and in some way could have happened in the circumstances they did

But what I speak of now has already taken place, and ur opinions of what could have changed a bad situation doesnt help, its like rubbing salt on a wound, now ya get it? You keep telling me about the goodness, and possibilities, when the harshness and the reality have already suken into place

Thats where youre missing it Chris, like i said I have no hard feelings, your opinions are jjst upon personak matters that cant be changed, but could be considered if god forbid things like that ever happened again

like I said, agree to disagree. you see the positive, I do as well, Ive lived to much of the harsh negative

[trip]

hitman, lol, yes, that was definitely a way with words.

Chris,

Just as a note, most people post to express their feelings and maybe get some good positive supportive feedback. Most folks that post are good people who do well solving their own problems.

At most times asking alot of questions feels instrusive and makes the other person feel like he is being criticized, unless you have close trusting bond with someone.

Asking questions is a sure way too success, of that their is no doubt, just realize at times questions can be seen as criticizm's.

You're definitely good addition to the board and we're all glad to have you.

It is stories like these, at times you wake up and go, "there by the grace of god"

So, many times it could have been me.

Saying a prayer for you cousin.

Later Doomster

[Chris]

Okay, so you don't have to read this, but I just can't leave this with this misunderstanding.

Originally posted by Chris325
It was sitting in plain view? :rolleyes:

Chris

^ This seems to be where this came alive. I wish I hadn't posted it, but I did. While I was thinking :rolleyes: for having them out, thats not all I was thinking. See the thing is I was gonna try and suggest something, but I couldn't think of anything that might be valid from the information I had. Later I posted agreeing with Stonecold, that there should be ways you can protest the charge. I almost called my Mom, but I figured she doesn't know more about Upstate NY law that I do.

As for the majority of what I said, it was to explain why I had said what I said earlier, not critique your cousin or add "what ifs" to situations. I know you say no hard feelings, but I just can't help feeling bad. I'm not trying to critique these two personaly matter, just talk about them and explain why I feel the way I do., so that you don't just assume I'm some narrow minded kid. As you know I can come off like that and it seems the more I explain, the worse it gets because it seems like I'm trying to add "what ifs" and other such things, but I'm not.

Originally posted by Chris325
In response to your earlier post about not being closed minded, well theres not much I can say. I don't think people should do drugs, but I also don't think I should enforce my beliefs upon anyone. So, what I am trying to say is, I don't do drugs, but I have many friends who do. If they get in trouble for it, tough shit. I'll do my best with the knowledge of law I have to help, but they took the risk, knowing it's illegal. And yes, I know there are a lot of things that are illegal that aren't as big a deal as other things(aka killing people), but if you know something is against the law, breaking the law is only a way to ensure that law is backed with even more money by more politicians to please the mean. So I guess another thing I am trying to say is, if you believe a law is wrong, breaking it isn't the way to make things better, they'll just get worse from it. Go out and protest, not just on an online forum.

Now, this response was to you saying its a shame for him having to lose such a large portion his life over such a smal thing. I TOTALLY agree with you. Thats what I was trying to explain. I like to add in why I feel that way, and I should have added the bolded part originally.




I hope I explained myself well enough for you to understand that I'm not trying to critique, judge, or add "what if's".









Regarless of all the misunderstanding, I wish him the best. If there is something I could think of that will help, I will definately tell you.

Chris

[Doom]

Like Trip said, ur crossing an inqusitive boundary you shouldnt be, its fine if something is underastood, but when you want me to break this whole thing down, thats where I get pissy

These places are for people to vent, and occasionally a topic will come up with heated debate, but its something for everyone, it doesnt begin with a topic about my night out in manhattan, or family winding up in jail.


This thread was just my way of saying, FUCK, because of the way things happen my cousin will spend the next decade of his life in a cell
Yes ur rolling eyes comment, and a few others, is what pissed me off, please comment on the threads, but you dont need to investigate every detail, which is what I feel you have tried to do through out, and that what we pretty much have done here

Chris, people just wanna say fuck sometimes, without explination, or someone elses view on it, stay here and you will see many of those