I have to say- this is the worst thing

[Bouncer]

i understand where your coming from - my daughter had her procedure done at albany med - the needle part was being done by an intern who could not find the vein and was becoming frustrated and trying to force it around in her arm looking for a vein - the head nurse would not take over saying she had to learn -- not at my daughters expense !!!!! she was screaming in pain - proper protocal would have been for the RN to take over and do it correctly

so you can keep your emotions incheck bullshit to yourself -- you can be my guest and let someone play lets find the fucking vein on your kids arm but not in mine

haha, good point

[Shibby]

i understand where your coming from - my daughter had her procedure done at albany med - the needle part was being done by an intern who could not find the vein and was becoming frustrated and trying to force it around in her arm looking for a vein - the head nurse would not take over saying she had to learn -- not at my daughters expense !!!!! she was screaming in pain - proper protocal would have been for the RN to take over and do it correctly

so you can keep your emotions incheck bullshit to yourself -- you can be my guest and let someone play lets find the fucking vein on your kids arm but not in mine

:agreed:

[Shibby]

i understand where your coming from - my daughter had her procedure done at albany med - the needle part was being done by an intern who could not find the vein and was becoming frustrated and trying to force it around in her arm looking for a vein - the head nurse would not take over saying she had to learn -- not at my daughters expense !!!!! she was screaming in pain - proper protocal would have been for the RN to take over and do it correctly

so you can keep your emotions incheck bullshit to yourself -- you can be my guest and let someone play lets find the fucking vein on your kids arm but not in mine

I just remembered that they tried to start my sons IV line while he was still awake and were having trouble. They wanted to give him his pre-op drug for his blood disorder before they put him to sleep so he was under less time (it has to be slowly infused). But he was screaming like crazy and I said it's time to take a break. They decided they would put the line in and administer the drug after he was under. Who knows how long they would have tried had I not said something.

[FitnessBrat]

Grrr....thanks for bringing this up Red, lol. My little guy had to get 2 shots at the doctor's office yesterday. :(

[babyblues]

i understand where your coming from - my daughter had her procedure done at albany med - the needle part was being done by an intern who could not find the vein and was becoming frustrated and trying to force it around in her arm looking for a vein - the head nurse would not take over saying she had to learn -- not at my daughters expense !!!!! she was screaming in pain - proper protocal would have been for the RN to take over and do it correctly

so you can keep your emotions incheck bullshit to yourself -- you can be my guest and let someone play lets find the fucking vein on your kids arm but not in mine

No one's suggesting you shouldn't experience emotion when your child is being hurt and it seems senseless or could have been prevented. That's OBVIOUSLY not what I meant. Experiencing emotions is one thing, keeping them in check is another. We don't have control over whether we experience emotions or not, but we can control how we allow ourselves to act or think because of them. Wanting to physically threaten someone because we're angry IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Sorry, son, but it's not.

And I don't appreciate the ignorant comments either. It's not bullshit, it's the truth. You might not like it, but at least try to keep proper perspective.

[Bouncer]

No one's suggesting you shouldn't experience emotion when your child is being hurt and it seems senseless or could have been prevented. That's OBVIOUSLY not what I meant. Experiencing emotions is one thing, keeping them in check is another. We don't have control over whether we experience emotions or not, but we can control how we allow ourselves to act or think because of them. Wanting to physically threaten someone because we're angry IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. Sorry, son, but it's not.

And I don't appreciate the ignorant comments either. It's not bullshit, it's the truth. You might not like it, but at least try to keep proper perspective.

thanks ole wise man. i bow to your wisdom. :pissed: :retard:

[Shibby]

How old are your kids babyblues?

[Bouncer]

How old are your kids babyblues?

you know he doesn't have any you passive aggressive pussy. :fight:

[FitnessBrat]

you know he doesn't have any you passive aggressive pussy. :fight:

lol, which is his point and why he keeps asking

[babyblues]

How old are your kids babyblues?

You know what, don't start that "you don't know because you haven't been there" crap, Shibby. Whether it's kids, a spouse, a co-worker or just friends, responding properly to our emotions instead of just reacting based on our emotions is of paramount importance. Trust me when I say I've had more experience with that than you have. Have you ever experienced the pain of having your marriage ripped away from you? I have. So, don't insinuate that this particular situation is any different because it involves children. We're not talking about something unique to having children. We're talking about something that we have to deal with in every single relationship we have with another human being. The bond between parent and child is stronger than most other relationships, but so is the bond between husband and wife. That bond for me was literally ripped apart. Imagine how emotional that would be. So, I'm speaking from experience too.

Didn't mean to hijack this thread, BTW. :D

[Bouncer]

lol, which is his point and why he keeps asking

thanks captain obvious.

[Bouncer]

You know what, don't start that "you don't know because you haven't been there" crap, Shibby. Whether it's kids, a spouse, a co-worker or just friends, responding properly to our emotions instead of just reacting based on our emotions is of paramount importance. Trust me when I say I've had more experience with that than you have. Have you ever experienced the pain of having your marriage ripped away from you? I have. So, don't insinuate that this particular situation is any different because it involves children. We're not talking about something unique to having children. We're talking about something that we have to deal with in every single relationship we have with another human being. The bond between parent and child is stronger than most other relationships, but so is the bond between husband and wife. That bond for me was literally ripped apart. Imagine how emotional that would be. So, I'm speaking from experience too.

Didn't mean to hijack this thread, BTW. :D

stop telling people "you know what" or "dont even go there" cause you aint gonna do shit if someone goes there all day. faggot. :clapback:

[babyblues]

stop telling people "you know what" or "dont even go there" cause you aint gonna do shit if someone goes there all day. faggot. :clapback:

What does this add to the conversation? I know you're joking around, but some times you go overboard. This is one of them. And if you're not joking, go ahead and insult me as much as you like, I don't really care. I stand by what I said.

[FitnessBrat]

thanks captain obvious.

You shut your fat mouth :fight:

[Shibby]

I didn't think BB had any kids but I didn't want to assume.

BB, it not about not knowing what its like to have a kid, its about not understanding what its like. You can't compare the protection of a defensless kid to any other relationship. If you had a kid you would understand that given the choice, you will choose over reacting and insurung your kids safety than under reacting and witnessing an accident.