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Wait, wait wait.....so you're saying you can draw and fire a SINGLE ACTION pistol more than FOUR TIMES before an attacker can close from seven yards?
So for the demonstration you drew, fired, cocked the gun and fired again multiple times before they ever got to you?
There is no other way to operate a single action when it's unloaded, so you were fanning the hammer I guess?
I'm not calling bullshit....but uh......
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Fanning is correct. Understand I have been using this particular weapon for over 35 years so to say it is well broken in would be an understatement and has a modified hammer as well. I doubt I could do this with an off the shelf six shooter as the action would be a little to stiff in that caliber. Could likely do it all day with a .22 though.Originally posted by decadecadeca View PostWait, wait wait.....so you're saying you can draw and fire a SINGLE ACTION pistol more than FOUR TIMES before an attacker can close from seven yards?
So for the demonstration you drew, fired, cocked the gun and fired again multiple times before they ever got to you?
There is no other way to operate a single action when it's unloaded, so you were fanning the hammer I guess?
I'm not calling bullshit....but uh......
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Originally posted by Kayak Jones View PostAnd there is no other way to operate a singlre action unloaded or loaded. Thats why it is reffered to as a single action.
When it's loaded and fired the action of the slide will cock the hammer on the 1911, so you wouldn't have to cock it again by hand. When it's empty and you dry fire it of course the slide doesn't move back so you have to cock it for every dry fire shot by hand.
On the single action revolver you're correct though.
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I am correct. The .45 is not a single action and cannot be fired single action, unless you want to single load a shell and then release the slide following the discharge. Possible but a bit comedic for self defense. In the simulation the hammer on the .45 was already cocked as most law enforcement carry them. It was "fired" once and then a stopwatch used to estimate the # of trigger pulls following the 1st hammer drop.Originally posted by decadecadeca View PostWhen it's loaded and fired the action of the slide will cock the hammer on the 1911, so you wouldn't have to cock it again by hand. When it's empty and you dry fire it of course the slide doesn't move back so you have to cock it for every dry fire shot by hand.
On the single action revolver you're correct though.
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Yep I completely stuck but painfully aware of the difference. I'm hoping that you aren't one of those guys that asks for a "tissue" when you gotta blow the snot out of your shnoz?!Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View PostLOL, I was gonna correct him but I decided after 40+ years with guns he is stuck saying clip.
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Nope!Originally posted by Kayak Jones View PostYep I completely stuck but painfully aware of the difference. I'm hoping that you aren't one of those guys that asks for a "tissue" when you gotta blow the snot out of your shnoz?!
thats why I didnt say anything. I figured you knew but just use Clip instead of mag.
The only reason I even think of it is when I was a youngster I went into a shop and asked about getting extra "clips" for my gun. the old timer behind the desk just went on and on about the difference and it has stuck with me ever since.
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Originally posted by Kayak Jones View PostI am correct. The .45 is not a single action and cannot be fired single action, unless you want to single load a shell and then release the slide following the discharge. Possible but a bit comedic for self defense. In the simulation the hammer on the .45 was already cocked as most law enforcement carry them. It was "fired" once and then a stopwatch used to estimate the # of trigger pulls following the 1st hammer drop.
Sorry brother but the 1911 is most definitely a single action pistol.
Colt's Manufacturing Company LLCSINGLE ACTION
A firearm that requires the hammer or striker to be cocked manually before pulling the trigger to fire it. On Colt revolvers, this is done by pulling the hammer back to the cocked position. On Colt single action pistols, pulling the slide to the rear initially cocks the hammer. The firing of the pistol, with the resulting cycling of the action, cocks the hammer for each successive shot.
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Let's put it this way. When John Browning invented the 1911 model he did not name it the Colt 1911 single action revolver. He had already invented one of those previously. He did however see fit to call it the 45 acp (automatic colt pistol) Technically you are absolutely correct by stating the hammer must be cocked manually. It's kinda like calling the barrel of an Abrams tank just a big rifle, you would be technically correct due to the rifling in the barrel.
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Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Postlol@ the hillbilly argument ^.
"god damn it my grand pappy made the original moon shine." "but my grand pappy made the first real changes to the filtration process".
lol
Damn yankees....
When we want advice about hair gel and tanning beds we'll let you know.
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