LOL @ the bible

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Animism predates the Egyptians by thousands of years.

"....When the ancient cave painters drew animals on the walls of their caves, this may have been part of a belief in the magic of animism. By painting the animal, the animal would appear; by painting it speared, success in the hunt might be guaranteed. Neanderthals buried their dead with objects, presumably so they could be used in the afterlife....."

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III. Prehistoric Beginnings of Basic Religions



A. Neanderthal Religion

1. Earliest Hominid (125,000 – 30,000 B.C.E.)
2. Neanderthal Burial Sites Contain Animal Bones, Tools,
Weapons, Suggesting Offerings to the Gods or Necessary
Accompaniments into the World of the Dead, and/or
Worshipful Attitude Toward Animals (Bears)



B. Cro-Magnon Religion

1. Forerunner of Homo sapiens Emerge 30,000 Years Ago
2. Cro-Magnon Burial Sites, Wall Paintings, and Figurines
a. Burial Sites Contain Not Only Tools and Weapons,
but Red Painted Bones, Suggesting Concern with
Life Beyond Death; Corpses Curled in Fetal
Position, Suggesting Belief in Rebirth to Next Life
b. Hidden Wall Paintings of Humans Hunting Animals
Suggests Priests, Magicians, or Shaman Tried to
Predict Events of Successful Hunt
c. Numerous Figurines of Female Figures With
Exaggerated Breast, Hips, Abdomen Might Suggest
Worship of a Fertility Goddess



C. Neolithic Religion

1. Neolithic People Live from 7,000 to 3,000 B.C.E.
2. Development of Agriculture as Way of Life Allows for
Development in Religious Outlook and Practice
a. Agriculture Allows for Stability, Leisure, and Rise
of Urban Life
b. Neolithic Peoples Develop Mythological Religiosity
Based on Fertility of Soil, Animals, Humans, as
well as, Cycles of Seasons, Tides, Moon
c. Neolithic Peoples Build Megaliths (Giant Stone
Monuments), Possibly for Religious Purposes

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Animism predates the Egyptians by thousands of years.

"....When the ancient cave painters drew animals on the walls of their caves, this may have been part of a belief in the magic of animism. By painting the animal, the animal would appear; by painting it speared, success in the hunt might be guaranteed. Neanderthals buried their dead with objects, presumably so they could be used in the afterlife....."

once again, you read what you want to believe.

but you ignore where it says "this may have been". lol

they are saying shit they think. not fact or any truth.

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III. Prehistoric Beginnings of Basic Religions



A. Neanderthal Religion

1. Earliest Hominid (125,000 – 30,000 B.C.E.)
2. Neanderthal Burial Sites Contain Animal Bones, Tools,
Weapons, Suggesting Offerings to the Gods or Necessary
Accompaniments into the World of the Dead, and/or
Worshipful Attitude Toward Animals (Bears)



B. Cro-Magnon Religion

1. Forerunner of Homo sapiens Emerge 30,000 Years Ago
2. Cro-Magnon Burial Sites, Wall Paintings, and Figurines
a. Burial Sites Contain Not Only Tools and Weapons,
but Red Painted Bones, Suggesting Concern with
Life Beyond Death; Corpses Curled in Fetal
Position, Suggesting Belief in Rebirth to Next Life
b. Hidden Wall Paintings of Humans Hunting Animals
Suggests Priests, Magicians, or Shaman Tried to
Predict Events of Successful Hunt
c. Numerous Figurines of Female Figures With
Exaggerated Breast, Hips, Abdomen Might Suggest
Worship of a Fertility Goddess



C. Neolithic Religion

1. Neolithic People Live from 7,000 to 3,000 B.C.E.
2. Development of Agriculture as Way of Life Allows for
Development in Religious Outlook and Practice
a. Agriculture Allows for Stability, Leisure, and Rise
of Urban Life
b. Neolithic Peoples Develop Mythological Religiosity
Based on Fertility of Soil, Animals, Humans, as
well as, Cycles of Seasons, Tides, Moon
c. Neolithic Peoples Build Megaliths (Giant Stone
Monuments), Possibly for Religious Purposes

none of that is based on science. its all conclusions religious whack jobs have drawn.

just like you and your burial reference. you want to believe something so bad.

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Anthropologists are religous whackjobs now?

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Anthropologists are religous whackjobs now?

no but no anthropolgists came up with that list that you just posted.

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no but no anthropolgists came up with that list that you just posted.

It's cited from a Prentice Hall Anthropology textbook.

http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/ob.../im_ch01_1.pdf

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they were religious anthropologists then. lol

nothing in that list proves religion. it just proves they were intelligent, used tools, visual people and the beginnings of art.

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Denial of facts.

You've turned into the very thing you hate.

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Denial of facts.

You've turned into the very thing you hate.

problem is, no facts are there.

they say "we found some tools and pictures and that indicates religion". :retard:

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'God is the Product of Human Weakness' a letter by Albert Einstein

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still purely primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. ... For me the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstition. And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong ... have no different quality for me than all other people. As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything “chosen” about them." - Albert Einstein

Letters of Note: The word God is the product of human weakness

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10 facts of Darwinian evolution young-earth creationists don’t want to understand

10. Beyond a shadow of doubt, human DNA and chimpanzee DNA are 98% identical. We diverged from the same common ancestor 5 million years ago. This isn’t idle speculation, it is a fact bound up in deductive logic. We are the modern descendants of ancient apes, just as modern apes are the descendants from that same ancestral tree but on a different branch to humans. Just as the VW Beetle is the ancestor of the Porsche Carrera GT, one does not cease to exist because of the emergence of the other. But where car designs are engineered and refined by man, life is shaped by genetic mutations, which over time, gives rise to entirely new species.

9. The genetic evidence of natural selection is compelling enough proof of evolution without any evidence from fossils whatsoever. If Darwin had never lived, we would still have eventually discovered naturally occurring selection mechanisms in our DNA. If there were no fossils in the fossil record, whatsoever, the evidence of evolution in our genes would still be a fact. Genetics does not require the evidence from the fossil record in any way shape or form. Lateral gene transfer is a major mechanism in prokaryotic genome evolution. Gene theory and palaeontology are two completely separate areas of study that just so happen to support each other. Independently acquired, mutually corroborative evidence is the heart and soul of the theory of evolution. To disprove one, you must disprove the other, yet each set of evidences are intrinsically linked, while being independently ascertained.

8. Evolution does not propose origins of life. Evolution does not seek to answer the question of how the first multicellular organisms appeared. It describes how they evolved once they formed, not how they formed in the first place. Abiogenesis is in no way related to Darwinian evolution. We do not know how the first multicellular life formed, but we know what it was made of and that these elements were abundant on the early Earth, after it formed 4.54 billion years ago*, and that these same elements are present throughout the universe today. The vast timescales involved aren’t easy to comprehend. But admitting you do not understand something, in science, is the only way to find out.

7. “Survival of the fittest” is NOT the guiding principal of individual behaviour. It is the biological mechanism which determines the adaptability of a species over time, NOT individuals within their own lifetime. Evolution happens gradually over hundreds of millions of years. Random mutations in the DNA code do not always produce positive results. Mutations are not always beneficial because evolution is unguided; it has no foresight. Natural selection builds upon mutations that produce adaptations which are beneficial in specific areas, just as it cancels out mutations that are detrimental in others. This explains why 99% of all life that has ever lived on Earth is now extinct.

6. Not a single living organism that has ever been discovered shows any sign, whatsoever, of having evolved by non-Darwinian means. If there were, the scientific method is precisely designed to discover it. There are no known species of any living organism anywhere on Earth that can not be fully described by evolution theory. The only people who assert otherwise are religious fundamentalists who have repeatedly demonstrated they do not understand how Darwinian evolution by means of natural selection actually works. Hence it is illegal in almost every industrialised nation on Earth to teach creationism in the science classroom.

5. Darwinism when applied to free market economics, is a flawed form of capitalism and gives rise to a supreme irony. Free market theory has been shown time and again to favour the rich to the detriment of the poor. Every single European and American government who has applied Darwinism to their economic policy, has been forced, at some point, to apply regulations to the market, so as to counterbalance this unwanted effect. Despite this, in the American system of governance, free market ultra-capitalism remains to be the fundamental ideological difference between predominantly evangelical smaller state conservatives, who favour it, and predominantly non-religious liberal democrats who oppose it. Darwinian economics is synonymous with conservatism, not liberalism.

4. The vast majority of evolutionary biologists are practising Christians. Indeed the only group among scientists who profess higher religiosity than biologists are physicists. The official dogma of the Catholic church is that “evolution theory is not incompatible with a belief in the bible”. The only quasi-religious sect which does not accept the facts of evolution, are classified by the International Cultic Studies Association as “cults with authoritarian, exploitative and possibly dangerous systems of ritual practices”. This includes the deliberate obfuscation of facts so as to indoctrinate children and vulnerable or credulous adults. Hence, young-earth creationists, even within Protestant evangelicalism, make up less than 3% of those who otherwise describe themselves as bible believing Christians worldwide.

3. Darwin was wrong about a great many things. As were many of the people who supported his theory when it was first published. There are examples throughout history of scientists making huge mistakes which have led science down blind alleys of investigation, sometimes for hundreds of years. But the beauty of the scientific method, is that these mistakes always come to light. Darwin did not set his theories in stone, rather he hoped that future generations of naturalists would DISPROVE his many claims. Since then, this is what biologists, palaeontologists, geneticists, chemists, anthropologists and every other discipline in science has sought to achieve. We have yet to find any compelling evidence that might falsify any aspect of natural selection, despite that the scientific method is geared towards doing exactly that.

2. Evolutionary biologists like Richard Dawkins are not the atheist’s Jesus. They are men with opinions of their own. Nothing more, nothing less. Some of their opinions are based upon irrefutable facts and some are not. Atheism and science are not two sides of the same coin, nor do individual scientists who happen to be non-religious speak on behalf of all agnostics, rationalists, free thinkers, humanists or pastafarians worldwide. Science and scientists are two completely different things, just as are what you believe and what you can prove. If you believe in things that you can not prove, that does not constitute a reason for others to do the same.

1. Abandoning reason and fair mindedness does not bring you closer to Jesus. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth and the light.” By that light many of humanity’s finest thinkers have discovered the mechanisms by which the world works. Darwin himself was a devout Christian. And while it is true he lost his faith because of a series of tragedies in his personal life, he never ceased to believe that God may exist. He did not become agnostic because he established the most important principal in science, nor did he lose his faith because he gained reason. He woke up to the reality of the majestic universe and abandoned childish notions, which seek to divide people between faith and facts. Faith is a virtue, but so is humility. And nothing is more humbling than the glimpse into the grandeur of nature upon which Darwin’s theory casts such brilliant illumination.

“I don’t want to believe, I want to know” – Carl Sagan.

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Bible predictions of things to happen in the future confirm the inspiration of Scripture as they come to pass. Notice the following examples of fulfilled Bible prophecies:

A. Four world empires to arise: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome (Daniel chapters 2, 7, 8).
Interpretation of the 4 kingdoms (Babylon, Media, Persia, Greece)

B. Cyrus to be the warrior to capture Babylon (Isaiah 45:1-3).
1 “Thus says the LORD to His anointed,
To Cyrus, whose right hand I have held—
To subdue nations before him
And loose the armor of kings,
To open before him the double doors,
So that the gates will not be shut:
2 ‘ I will go before you
And make the crooked places[a] straight;
I will break in pieces the gates of bronze
And cut the bars of iron.
3 I will give you the treasures of darkness
And hidden riches of secret places,
That you may know that I, the LORD,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.

Babylon?


C. After Babylon's destruction, it would never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19, 20; Jeremiah 51:37).

Iraq, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia are inhabited?


D. Egypt would never again have a commanding position among the nations (Ezekiel 29:14, 15; 30:12, 13).
Astrology


E. Earth-shaking calamities and fear toward the end of time (Luke 21:25, 26).
25"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea
Astue observation


F. Moral degeneracy and decline of spirituality in the last days (2 Timothy 3:1-5).
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
History repeats itself. Shocker. It did before Abrahamic religions and always will. Such high intelligence :rolleyes:

The bible is stories full of astrology type predictions or self fulfilling prophecies. Any "evidence" that theist think they have is simply letting the story tell the evidence instead of letting the evidence tell the story. I made a thread explaining this same ignorance with an hypothetical question.