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People want Bill back in the White House and the idiots of this country are thinking that if she gets in the office Bill is going to help her with his expertise and together they are going to save the country.Originally posted by Bouncer View PostI don't think so bro, she really isn't very popular.
That's why she'll be elected not because she is popular.
Eight years ago she wouldn't stop running against Obama until the last minute and she wasn't far behind. I'm not following it closely but this time around democrats hasn't introduced anyone popular enough to run against her.
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Yea I can agree with that. My mom is one of them.
My mom see's a fellow Woman and remembers how good things were when the Clintons were in the white house.
Like we talked about yesterday, I do not believe any 1 person no matter who it is can do much. I think the President today has far less power then say 50 years ago. President today is just a face to whats really going on behind the curtain.
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Shes a crooked bitch IMO..I hope to fuck people arent going to sweep this shit under the rug and allow her into office.. B..there is a lot of evidence not just this one article( thats not evidience..just he put it all together to show whats been done)..shes using her position to try and get away with shit. If it was anyone else..they would have already been done bro... I see her pawning it off on some "staffer" for them to take the hit..and her move fwd. I really hope this isnt allowed..it really would be wrong in every sence of the word.
The only reason General Petraice (sp) went down was because he could control the military and actually do what was right for our country..The obama administration had to have him removed..its why they got him out.. Its also why there have been more High ranking officers) General/ Admerials) relieved of command in this administration then ever before in our countrys history. They had to remove them and put yes men in position so he could push this Iran deal and pull us out of Iraq( He just picked the wrong way to do it) and it created this whole ISIS situation that is present now. It really is a fucking mess.
I have no confidence in anyone running right now and dont believe anyone of them can fix the mess we are in...I just hope who ever it may be..actually does try and do whats right for America first and get us started on a good path again.
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Bill's expertise is in communication, persuasion, and being "slick willy". Hilary's expertise is what got Bill into office. He would be a city councilman in a town with a population of 20k if he hadn't met and married Hilary. Almost a real life "House of Cards" type of situation.Originally posted by BEAST View PostPeople want Bill back in the White House and the idiots of this country are thinking that if she gets in the office Bill is going to help her with his expertise and together they are going to save the country.
That's why she'll be elected not because she is popular.
Eight years ago she wouldn't stop running against Obama until the last minute and she wasn't far behind. I'm not following it closely but this time around democrats hasn't introduced anyone popular enough to run against her.
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Hillary Clinton's email troubles began when her private address was exposed by a Romanian hacker. Now the resulting scandal threatens to torpedo her presidential ambitions.
2008 – Hillary Clinton acquires a personal email server for her use in running for president, and has it installed in her Chappaqua, New York home
January 13, 2009 – Internet records show that the domain 'clintonemail.com' was created
January 21, 2009 – Clinton is confirmed by the U.S. Senate as President Obama's secretary of state
February 1, 2013 – Clinton leaves the State Department
March 20, 2013 – Clinton's private email address, [email protected], is made public when a Romanian hacker named 'Guccifer' (whose real name is Marcel Lazăr Lehel) hacks into longtime Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal's AOL email account and leaks images of his inbox – including emails from Clinton
June 2013 – Hillary's team shifts control of the email domain to an outside IT contractor in Denver called Platte River Networks, and sends the original server hardware to a data center facility in New Jersey, where it is erased
August 11, 2014 – Following a congressional subpoena and more than a year of delays, the State Department hands over a small number of Clinton's private emails, 10 in all, to a House committee investigating the 2012 terror attack on a State Department compound in Benghazi, Libya – including some emails from the [email protected] address
November 2014 – The Benghazi committee asks the State Department for a larger batch of Clinton's emails and receives about 300 that relate to the Libya saga, amounting to 850 printed pages
December 5, 2014 – Clinton's aides say that in response to a request from the State Department, they have handed over about 55,000 pages of her work-related emails, comprising 30,490 messages
February 13, 2015 – The State Department sends the Benghazi committee another 850 pages of Clinton's emails, including some from two different accounts on the private 'clintonemail.com' server
February 27, 2015 – State Department staffers tell Benghazi committee aides that Clinton had used her private address exclusively during her tenure at the agency, and that they don't have any of her emails other than those she provided voluntarily
March 4, 2015 – The Associated Press reports that it has traced Clinton's private email address back to a private server at her Chappaqua, New York home, and that the server was registered under a fake name
March 10, 2015 – In a contentious press conference following a speech at the United Nations, Clinton admits that she deleted more than 30,000 emails that she says were personal in nature, and says she turned over everything work-related to the State Department, while insisting that 'I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email; there is no classified material'
March 11, 2015 – The Associated Press sues the State Department to force the release of Clinton's emails and other documents that the agency has failed to turn over following a Freedom Of Information Act request
April 12, 2015 – Clinton launches her second presidential campaign with an online video and begins two months of low-key campaigning marked by a lack of interaction with reporters
May 22, 2015 – The first 300 of Clinton's emails are made public by the State Department, revealing a close relationship with Blumenthal in the weeks following the Benghazi terror attack; one of them has been retroactively classified by the FBI as 'secret' but Clinton insists it was 'handled appropriately'
May 27, 2015 – A federal judge orders the State Department to begin releasing all of Clinton's emails in installments every 30 days, setting monthly targets for the agency so the work is completed by January 29, 2016
July 23, 2015 – Charles McCullough, the inspector general for the U.S. intelligence community tells members of Congress in a letter that a random sampling of 40 Clinton emails turned up four that contained material classified as secret
July 24, 2015 – Andrea Williams, spokeswoman for the McCulloush, says that the emails 'were classified when they were sent and are classified now.'
July 25, 2015 – During a campaign appearance in Iowa, Clinton modifies her position and tells reporters in Iowa that 'I am confident that I never sent nor received any information that was classifiedat the time it was sent and received'
July 31, 2015 – The second State Department release of Clinton's emails, more than 1,300 in all, includes 41 that were marked 'classified' before they were made public
August 4, 2015 – Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill says in a statement that the candidate 'did not send nor receive any emails that were marked classified at the time'
August 11, 2015 – McCullough revises his statement to Congress, saying that two of the four emails in question should have been classified 'top secret' – but were not marked that way – and contained information from signal intercepts and keyhole satellite data; he adds that the other two emails are still being evaluated
August 11, 2015 – The FBI takes possession of Clinton's server hardware and three thumb drives in her lawyer's possession, which are said to contain copies of everything she turned over to the State Department
Read more: Hillary Clinton shrugs off question about whether she 'wiped' her server clean | Daily Mail Online
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There was a time when I said to myself, "just give me a person that can relate to people, give us a person that knows what it's like to be a normal citizen in America, give us someone that is smart and understanding of the world yet personable and relatable." I really thought obama was that President. But the Candidate obama slowly faded away into nothing once he became president. I feel like even when a person goes into office with new ideas and inspiration it is all slowly killed and dulled down by the way the system is setup. it's ashame because I'm not sure any single man or woman can do much to change anything at this point.
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Is Donald Trump leading a proto-fascist movement?
lol.
This is what I will say about the whole trump thing. If there is any good in it, its that it exposes how stupid the whole political system has become. Just last week "deeznutz" was doing well in the polls. If it takes a character like trump to shock the whole system and cause change then so be it. Give is real options. A person like trump is able to rise because there doesn't seem to be anyone else that people can believe in.
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Our Know-Nothing, Anti-Science, Anti-Intellectual Presidential Candidates
Other than getting a major fact wrong, the worst possible feeling for a journalist is the gut-wrenching notion that all of one's efforts are for naught. For me, it has become increasingly difficult to escape this dreadful feeling, given the state of politics in America.
Last week, it was revealed that pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson, who is currently one of the frontrunners for the Republican nomination, believes the Big Bang to be a fairy tale and the theory of evolution to be the work of the devil. This comes on the heels of a debate performance in which Dr. Carson voiced disagreement with the vaccine schedule for children, though there is no evidence to support his view that vaccines should be delayed. Rand Paul, an ophthalmologist, expressed similar skepticism.
Even worse, Donald Trump, who is currently leading the GOP race, announced that vaccines cause autism. This dangerous nonsense has been debunked so many times, that it's not even fun to debunk it anymore.
Lest you come to the conclusion that only Republicans reject modern scholarship, the Democrats haven't done any better.
Hillary Clinton, the current Democratic frontrunner, joined the anti-vaccine bandwagon during her first presidential run in 2008. Amazingly, she has done a complete about-face on the issue, something worthy of both praise (because she is endorsing good science) and ridicule (because she acts as if she can hide from what she said in 2008). More recently, Mrs. Clinton came out against the Keystone XL pipeline because of climate change, as if a single pipeline will spell doom for the planet. Notably, Mrs. Clinton's opinion is in direct opposition to a State Department report that concluded the pipeline would have no effect on global greenhouse gas emissions.
Bernie Sanders, the champion of the far left, is also not terribly fond of science. He favors GMO food labels, even though America's finest scientists and medical doctors disagree. Mr. Sanders also opposes building more nuclear power plants, even though they are safe and constitute a necessary part of any serious climate policy. Then there's the whole socialism thing, even though the overwhelming majority of economists endorse capitalism as the best method to allocate resources efficiently in an economy.
We can shake our heads in disbelief at people like Dr. Carson, Dr. Paul, Mr. Trump, Mrs. Clinton, and Mr. Sanders. But, in a democratic society, our politicians are simply a reflection of who we are. They are us. Our politicians hold idiotic beliefs because a substantial proportion of Americans hold idiotic beliefs.
Until that changes, we will continue to get the government that we deserve.

Our Know-Nothing, Anti-Science, Anti-Intellectual Presidential Candidates | RealClearScience
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