Conservative values equate to being afraid

[Bouncer]

its called the "silent majority". just a guess but they probably don't participate much in polls. lol

[chuckz28]

And every single one of those polls said Clinton would win by a landslide...

[Scrumhalf]

There are many, many polls. No reason to not believe them and I say this objectively. The polls range from almost 90% to over 2/3rds in even the most conservative poll sites like Rasmussen. I don't think this is a biased poll thing - Americans overwhelmingly want universal background checks. And the numbers are such that this cuts across the political spectrum.

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[chuckz28]

It's not me. Virtually the entire country doesn't agree with the NRA on this.

And whoops on the typo. I meant to say mentally ill gun ownership. Not sure how autocorrect turned that into mandatory gun ownership.

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I said mandatory gun ownership. I've heard people suggest this. That is an extreme view. Lack of wanting additional background checks is not an extreme view, it is just an oppositional view.
For one, I don't believe a poll that says 85% want increased background checks. Most importantly, I'd say a very large chunk of that is rather that people don't care either way. So you have people that want more, people that don't care either way and people that don't want more. An EXTREME view would be NO background checks.

[lipripper]

I'll give Scrum one thing. Thanks to the internet the younger generation is more informed that most people over 50. Instead of just listening to talking points, they actually look at the data, they look at statistics. Percentage wise a 16 year old is more likely to have more complete information on something like global warming because they actually look at and understand the data and how it works, while a 50 year old just hears Rush Limbaugh on AM radio telling them that Al Gore created the hoax of Global Warming and just go with that instead of actually trying to understand it.

In this regard, the 16 years olds will indeed save us.

yea after a good meal of tide pods...they then put their thinking caps on:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Chadd77]

Chadd, you're afraid. Want to know how I know this?

I would recommend all of you to read the book, 'Sapiens' it goes into depth about how our ancestors lived. It all started in Eastern Africa and we developed fear because we were not on top of the food chain. We were regularly hunted by lions and other apex predators. Those of us who survived developed a sense of fear and..... Anxiety.

Phenibut is an anti-anxiety drug. People who walk around with daily Anxiety are drawn to this drug. They can't sleep at night without it as their mind is racing, they can't relax or make it through the day without it. Mind is racing with fear. Chadd you've openly admitted on this very board that you take this drug daily and that you absolutely cannot sleep without it.

Scoreboard mother fucker.

Here is the Post where you admit this:
https://www.superiormuscle.com/forum...73-post15.html

Your post literally made me lol.

I'll have to get that book and read it. It sounds great! lol

Anxiety? Funny you even mention that. My wife questioned me yesterday because I don't stress over large problems that life can throw at you. I told her it's not that I don't care about it but I don't stress over situations that I cannot control. SO to say I have anxiety is about as funny as the picture you posted of yourself. lol

Scoreboard? lol I'm coaching my daughters soccer team right now. You reminded me of this little pudgy girl on the team. Man she tries real hard but she can't play for shit. lol Keep trying my friend. Don't give up!

[Scrumhalf]

Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it an extremist view. You can't lump additional background checks and mandatory gun ownership in the same bucket as "extremist".

It's not me. Virtually the entire country doesn't agree with the NRA on this.

And whoops on the typo. I meant to say mentally ill gun ownership. Not sure how autocorrect turned that into mandatory gun ownership.

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[chuckz28]

Just because you don't agree with something doesn't make it an extremist view. You can't lump additional background checks and mandatory gun ownership in the same bucket as "extremist".

[chuckz28]

An extremist position is one that is opposite of 85% of the American population. There's no other way to put it. The NRA position on background checks, mental health restrictions and CDC research is, literally, extremist. It's not even close.

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First 85% is off bullshit polls that were just as wrong as the election. Second. If those are extremist in your mind then what word in the English language would you use to label my examples of mandatory gun ownership and ability to own explosives?

[Scrumhalf]

Labeling "extremist" for common debate topic is a gross watering down of the word. An extremist gun view is allowing people to own bazookas and mandating all citizens to buy a machine gun. That's extreme.

An extremist position is one that is opposite of >85% of the American population. There's no other way to put it. The NRA position on background checks, mental health restrictions and CDC research is, literally, extremist. It's not even close.

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[chuckz28]

Labeling "extremist" for common debate topic is a gross watering down of the word. An extremist gun view is allowing people to own bazookas and mandating all citizens to buy a machine gun. That's extreme.

[Bouncer]

I'd rather the NRA fight for every square inch. It's become a cliche but it's true. You give an inch they take a mile. If the NRA agrees to everything you propose and it's put into law what do you think will happen the next shooting? You fuckers will come along and want more restrictions, regulations, etc.. it will never stop. It will never be enough. You will take and take from legal law abiding gun owners because of the actions of a nut.

For those reasons I am glad the NRA has a no compromise attitude even if I personally support strong background checks.

[chuckz28]

The NRA opposes universal background checks which is supported by over 85% of the American public. They actively lobbied to repeal the provision to restrict people with mental health issues from obtaining guns. They also have lobbied successfully to prevent the CDC from researching the causes and potential fixes for gun violence, which objectively is a serious health issue in the country. Can you imagine Ford and Chrysler lobbying against car safety research?

That's the extremist agenda I am talking about.

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I disagree with the opinion that private sales requiring background checks is extremist either for or against.

The NRA lobbied against allowing the Social Security Administration to provide disability benefit information to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. This does not come with HIPAA. The fact remains that it is already illegal to sell guns to anyone “who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution” per Title 18 section 922(g) of the United States Code.

I don't know the NRA reasoning for trying to block cdc research but I'm always weary of what their conclusions will be, mainly more gun control laws for law abiding gun owners since criminals by nature don't follow laws.

[Scrumhalf]

Protecting a constitutional amendment is hardly any extremist agenda scrum.

The NRA opposes universal background checks which is supported by over 85% of the American public. They actively lobbied to repeal the provision to restrict people with mental health issues from obtaining guns. They also have lobbied successfully to prevent the CDC from researching the causes and potential fixes for gun violence, which objectively is a serious health issue in the country. Can you imagine Ford and Chrysler lobbying against car safety research?

That's the extremist agenda I am talking about.

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[chuckz28]

Of course you can find "many" on either side who want crazy shit. I think many on the left want more regulations than there are now but many also like Obama believe in the 2nd Amendment.

Since you like the automobile analogy are you OK with mandating gun owners purchase liability insurance?

Having mandated insurance for a constitutionally protected RIGHT is absurd.

And please explain how giving money to an insurance company is going to stop a mentally unstable kid from shooting his classmates.