Andro's Get Lean Log w/ Pics

[Bouncer]

Bro you got the doggondest side effects from AAS I've ever seen. ;)

[Bouncer]

I think what's awesome is that I'm keeping my strength. If I was doing keto my strength would've plummeted.


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I'm with ya. Protein and fat works for some. But because I'm taller and got a fast metabolism I turn into a stick figure literally days after I drop carbs. My muscles look like all the air been pumped out of me. Strength drops by literally 25% or more. I need a ton of clean carbs to fuel my body.

[Androman]

I'm with ya. Protein and fat works for some. But because I'm taller and got a fast metabolism I turn into a stick figure literally days after I drop carbs. My muscles look like all the air been pumped out of me. Strength drops by literally 25% or more. I need a ton of clean carbs to fuel my body.

Exactly carbs are essential.


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[Androman]

Bro you got the doggondest side effects from AAS I've ever seen. ;)

If u compare both of my front pics I actually look bigger on the recent one idk why. I think it was because I was really sore so my muscles were inflamed


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[Chadd77]

Disagree B... I look leaner when I'm on a low dose of... The fullness might go away a bit, but that's just me... he ran a high dose of test=holding more water even on an AI dose.. AI is more to control the estrogens..
Low dose of test250-300 mgs and a nice cutter and some proviron he will see some changes in his physique.. he already has the mass... he doesn't need high dose test

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Nope. What kind of doses do you think guys run that are competing? Even at a local level they are running a ton of gear. They do it mostly by diet and controlling the water retention with AI.

[Chadd77]

Test doesn't give me the look that I'm going after. It is great for building mass though.


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I always laugh when someone says use this for mass and use this for cutting. Let me run a gram of test and 50mg dbol a day and I can still be shredded if I choose to. I'd prob have man boobs but I'd be shredded. lol You haven't dieting long and hard enough to even understand this yet.

[Bouncer]

Exactly. Nothing against andro, I like the dude. But I don't think he's ever been lean enough to truly understand his body. Things change drastically when your lean and by that I mean the way your body looks and responds to food.

When your shredded but "bloated" that's called being "full" and that is a great fucken look. But if you carry a bunch of bodyfat the same amount of bloat just looks sloppy.

[Androman]

Yea this is gonna take some time. I'm gonna do monthly updates or so. One thing for sure I woke up today feeling really small, kinda depressing and I've been getting really bad sugar cravings. I never had this especially when I was eating enough to gain probably because I was "well-fed".


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[Bouncer]

you have to understand this here and now. you WILL lose some muscle in your quest for abs. BUT once you get lean the quality of muscle you gain once you slowly increase calories will be much better.

[Androman]

Once I get in the best shape of my life this will be me


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[Androman]

Do you guys know how someone can "crash" their metabolism


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[Bouncer]

Do you guys know how someone can "crash" their metabolism


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I can already see your mental process. "If I eat too clean I could slow my metabolism".

Just no. Eat clean and stop worrying about shit you don't need to be worrying about.

[Androman]

I can already see your mental process. "If I eat too clean I could slow my metabolism".

Just no. Eat clean and stop worrying about shit you don't need to be worrying about.

No that wasn't it, eating clean isn't a problem. More like cutting calories too low. The calories is the problem. I went from eating 3400 down to 2350. I fear "what if I dropped it too low that I'm actually preventing my body from burning fat" it's possible your body can go into starvation mode and resists, I think it's called metabolic damage or crashing metabolism something like that


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[Androman]

Ive also been extremely hungry and getting cravings for stuff I don't normally crave ever.


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[Bouncer]

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. Just stop. Do what you need to do to drop the bodyfat. To get lean you need to drop cals. End of story.