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[Timma]

I feel like I'm winning....

:hang::hang:

LOL I won before the thread started. :thumup:

[the art of war]

You were all right with some points now can we just end it???? Nobody wins.

I feel like I'm winning....

:hang::hang:

[Timma]

sorry but FB wasn't right at all. she just said "i have experience" and was wrong.

rado made some points but the his points were in agreement with what i was saying.

It all depends on your HMO. With mine I do not need a referral so I can call around, which FB was right about. But you guys are both right about the referral thing.

[Bouncer]

You were all right with some points now can we just end it???? Nobody wins.

sorry but FB wasn't right at all. she just said "i have experience" and was wrong.

rado made some points but the his points were in agreement with what i was saying.

[Timma]

i win based on facts.

you and FB can talk jibberish all day if you want.

You were all right with some points now can we just end it???? Nobody wins.

[the art of war]

I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED A REFERRAL. i never said you didnt.

BUT. there are other specialist that specialize in what you need under your insurance plan. you can view them easily on your insurance companys website.

if any of them have an opening much sooner then your other guy you simply call your primary care office and change the referral.

I get what you are saying now, I was calling specialist after specialist - not from my insurance site, just from about a 50mile radius. Not like I'm gonna get on the horn tonight, but tomorrow yeah - I'll see what's up.

[Bouncer]

lol....I'm done dude...but you don't win....Be very clear of that;) In the end, my cock is still bigger than yours...That's all that matters:)

i win based on facts.

you and FB can talk jibberish all day if you want.

[Timma]

[Bouncer]

this is exactly the situation I am in - I need the referral or it's not going to happen, B - I was on the phone for plenty long today, it's not like I enjoy being in this condition bro. I don't think you understand the way MA is now w/masshealth and that whole deal - people are crawling out of the woodworks to get everything and anything done.

I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED A REFERRAL. i never said you didnt.

BUT. there are other specialist that specialize in what you need under your insurance plan. you can view them easily on your insurance companys website.

if any of them have an opening much sooner then your other guy you simply call your primary care office and change the referral.

[Bouncer]

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Your PCP tells what specialist to see; period...It's not up to the patient to find the specialist....Man you can be so fucking dumb bro...

ONCE AGAIN. they find you a specialist. usually the closest one.

IF YOU WANT TO USE A DIFFERENT SPECIALIST IN THE SAME FIELD AND THEY HAVE AN OPENING BEFORE THE OTHER SPECIALIST YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GO THERE. THE PRIMARY WILL GLADLY CHANGE THE REFERRAL.

[the art of war]

MOST insurance companies will not let you see a specialist or pay for it without a referral...The Dr does need to give you the referral....Fuck the radius, no shit....But you need your PMC(primary care phys)to give you the referral...

this is exactly the situation I am in - I need the referral or it's not going to happen, B - I was on the phone for plenty long today, it's not like I enjoy being in this condition bro. I don't think you understand the way MA is now w/masshealth and that whole deal - people are crawling out of the woodworks to get everything and anything done.

[Bouncer]

You're a tiring person you know that? really you are...The whole point is that he should go to his Dr and ask for a new referral...If it doesn't happen, then go to a new PCP, have your medical records faxed over and boom...New referral:)

yes but you guys seem to think its up to your primary to find you your specialist. once again, they will simply give you the closest one and thats that. its up to you to go find a specialist that you want. once you have found them, then you call the primary and get the referral to said place.

[Bouncer]

You've changed yourself a few times, so I'm not going to answer your question...It's what you do every fucking time when you see you're about to lose an argument...You grab another branch like a fucking monkey and swing left....

i have said the exact same thing the whole time.

give me 1 example of where I contradicted myself.

[Bouncer]

Well obviously bro, I would do the quickest route; no doubt....But this is really where it ALL FALLS DOWN...The DOCTOR....End of story.

Some Dr's go over and beyond and some just go at a pace....If I was him, I would said fuck off and I'm finding a new PCP; which I need no permission to do that....I just choose my new PCP and go from there...I've just been lucky with all of my Dr's that when I need something, boom..Done...

its not going above and beyond to change a referral. its a job they have to do if the patient requests it.

[Bouncer]

But you understand it and never been in it:tired::wack::tired::wack:

well am i correct or not?

i have had the experience many times from the other side. i have gone through the process of being sent to a specialist from my primary only to be told it will be 3 weeks when i make the appointment.

i simply went on my insurance company website. found the specialist i needed in the list for my area. found one that had a wait of 6 days. called my primary, told them to change the referral over and made the appointment that day.

i have done that maybe 5 or 6 times in 2 years.